DC-3s

[BravoHotel]

I passed by Acampo, CA where the infamous drop zone resides. I noticed the DC3 was no longer there. I wonder where she went.

I remember munching on my ramen with various toppings looking at her thinking about tales of E. GANN while taking a break from rigging parachutes.

 

[ahw01]

I forgot you were this cool

 

[BravoHotel]

I was cool? Surely you jest.

 

[MikeD]

We have members here who flew DC-3 for a living, in their career.

 

[DropTank]

We have members here who flew DC-3 for a living, in their career.

In Miami or AK it could have been last week

 

[MikeD]

In Miami or AK it could have been last week

That is a fair point.!

 

[Minuteman]

According to Reddit (never go on Reddit), they took the wings off and loaded it on trucks to Preferred Airparts in Apple Creek, OH in 2020, where it will be restored to flying condition.

Preferred Airparts is based at the private airfield, Stoltzfus Airfield (named after the family that owns the company). It looks like they have several turbine DC-3s there. A Stolzfus died in a DC-3 crash at the airport in January 2019 while flying for Priority Air Charter.

 

[BravoHotel]

According to Reddit (never go on Reddit), they took the wings off and loaded it on trucks to Preferred Airparts in Apple Creek, OH in 2020, where it will be restored to flying condition.

Preferred Airparts is based at the private airfield, Stoltzfus Airfield (named after the family that owns the company). It looks like they have several turbine DC-3s there. A Stolzfus died in a DC-3 crash at the airport in January 2019 while flying for Priority Air Charter.

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Huh. Interesting. Thanks for finding that. I usually avoid Reddit.

 

[ahw01]

Huh. Interesting. Thanks for finding that. I usually avoid Reddit.

Oh there's plenty of baslers, it was the rigger bit really

 

[Skåning]

A Stolzfus died in a DC-3 crash at the airport in January 2019 while flying for Priority Air Charter

ASN Aircraft accident Aero Modifications AMI DC-3-65TP N467KS Kidron-Stoltzfus Airfield, OH

An Aero Modifications AMI DC-3-65TP plane, registered N467KS, sustained substantial damage in an accident at SE of Kidron-Stoltzfus Airfield, OH, United States of America. There were two crew members on board. The airplane operated on a flight from Kidron-Stoltzfus Airfield, OH () to...

aviation-safety.net

 

[///AMG]

Interesting, and sad. I imagine the DC-3 probably wasn't built IAW current transport category certification criteria? As in, to my knowledge, there shouldn't be a part of the SE profile where one is ever below (or even very close to) Vmc, right? Or would this be more of a function of the engines installed, having not been part of the original certification? I'm not inigio, but I do presume a higher torque/higher power engine with same tail might create problems?

 

[CFI A&P]

According to Reddit (never go on Reddit), they took the wings off and loaded it on trucks to Preferred Airparts in Apple Creek, OH in 2020, where it will be restored to flying condition.

Preferred Airparts is based at the private airfield, Stoltzfus Airfield (named after the family that owns the company). It looks like they have several turbine DC-3s there. A Stolzfus died in a DC-3 crash at the airport in January 2019 while flying for Priority Air Charter.

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Preferred Airparts also includes a bag of peanuts with every order.

 

[CFI A&P]

Interesting, and sad. I imagine the DC-3 probably wasn't built IAW current transport category certification criteria? As in, to my knowledge, there shouldn't be a part of the SE profile where one is ever below (or even very close to) Vmc, right? Or would this be more of a function of the engines installed, having not been part of the original certification? I'm not inigio, but I do presume a higher torque/higher power engine with same tail might create problems?

According to the FAA type certificate, (A-669), it refers to CAR.4a for certification basis requirements for certain models and serial numbers while at specific weights. Turning to CAR4a.674 which states: "Climb: The average rate of climb for the first minute after the airplane leaves the take-off surface in accordance with § 4a.673, and the rate of steady climb at sea level with not more than maximum except-take-off power, shall not be less in feet per minute than: (a) Land planes. Eight times the measured power-off stalling speed in miles per hour with the flaps and landing gear retracted, or 300 per minute, whichever is greater."

I didn't see anything mentioned about Vmc & climb, but I'll have some spare time later and will dig into this a little deeper.

 

[SteveC]

...I'm not inigio, but I do presume a higher torque/higher power engine with same tail might create problems?

We ran into this when we took delivery of one of the first Lear 70's. We had a customer that liked to operate out of a short airport near their summer home, and when they sold their Lear 40 and bought a Lear 70 (thrust went up from 3,500 lbs per side to 3,850), it turned out that some of the short field performance numbers were worse with the more powerful engine variants.

 

[BravoHotel]

I found a picture and some short clips from a contact I had.

 

[BravoHotel]

Video of DC3 being trucked away.

 

[DropTank]

I like the PT6 conversions including the BT-67. It makes the DC3 So much more of a hauler and much more reliable.

But the sound is all wrong...

 

[Skåning]

But the sound is all wrong...

eww yuck you're right

View: https://youtu.be/zYNoUd4ik0o?t=68

 

[///AMG]

Anyone up in the PNW know the story behind the sad looking C-47 (presumably due to paint job) out on the ramp at KAWO? Drove by it today but didn't get a chance to go have a look.

 

[Minuteman]

Anyone up in the PNW know the story behind the sad looking C-47 (presumably due to paint job) out on the ramp at KAWO? Drove by it today but didn't get a chance to go have a look.

It was a C-47 built in 1944, maintained as N63440.

It used to fly turkeys for Amerine Farms in Central California out of Oakdale/Dan Donnelly airport in the 1960, and was used by Ronald Reagan during his 1966 campaign for governor. Also an Upstate New York Hockey team.

N63440 by John Caruso

Donnellys Dream - High-Flying Adventurer Brings Airport To Fruition

When Dan Donnelly came home from World War II, the decorated naval pilot had visions of starting his own flight school.

www.oakdaleleader.com

It apparently flew for Carib West in Barbados in the 1970s.

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No idea what the current plans are or when it got the D-Day paint.