CZQX CPDLC Log-On
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Vector4Food
This job would be easier without all the airplanes
I don't think there are any controllers from QX on the site, I can tell you however their neighbors in QM are finding it about a 60% participation rate on the Westbound flow, and about 30% on the eastbound flow.
Why?
Because coming westbound aircraft are already logged into CPDLC and as you know it automatically transfers. Coming into QM from BW it means they have to actually know to log on.
Some controllers are broadcasting its availability, but the perfectly honest, 90% of the time, its only used for frequency changes, for the purposes of actual air traffic control, CPDLC will be a long long time replacing the VHF radio in a strictly radar environment.
It is however, an excellent backup communication system, and also helpful for giving the odd discrete direct routing, or sending detailed information via FreeText.
I know you didn't ask for some of these answers, but there you go anyway
All in all, it's the future of ATC, but I think it's much more prevalent in a non-radar environment.
Why?
Because coming westbound aircraft are already logged into CPDLC and as you know it automatically transfers. Coming into QM from BW it means they have to actually know to log on.
Some controllers are broadcasting its availability, but the perfectly honest, 90% of the time, its only used for frequency changes, for the purposes of actual air traffic control, CPDLC will be a long long time replacing the VHF radio in a strictly radar environment.
It is however, an excellent backup communication system, and also helpful for giving the odd discrete direct routing, or sending detailed information via FreeText.
I know you didn't ask for some of these answers, but there you go anyway
All in all, it's the future of ATC, but I think it's much more prevalent in a non-radar environment.
Vector4Food
This job would be easier without all the airplanes
Oh and a PSA here:
Please stop announcing you're logged on to CPDLC... We know
Please stop announcing you're logged on to CPDLC... We know
We're just getting CPDLC approval on the 767s...already installed, we're just getting trained now. After 3 years of "Gander, Gander...?" on HF, I can assure you that I will not be forgetting to log on.
Cool, you got trained?
They more or less said, "Uhh.... HERE" to us and buried any information under the normal barrage of uncoordinated bulletins.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
It was some online course that took an hour and gave me waaaay too much info about ADS.
"Just tell me what I gotta push!"
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Just put on your best cockney accent and say "If you're not a Manc, you're a wank!"
Vector4Food
This job would be easier without all the airplanes
I wish our 123.45 monitor was in more than one location.
Every once and a while we catch you guys, but only within 200nm of here
Had an American pilot, talking to his ex wife flying a United flight... Awkward
Every once and a while we catch you guys, but only within 200nm of here
Had an American pilot, talking to his ex wife flying a United flight... Awkward
Polar742
All the responsibility none of the authority
We're just getting CPDLC approval on the 767s...already installed, we're just getting trained now. After 3 years of "Gander, Gander...?" on HF, I can assure you that I will not be forgetting to log on.
Don't get too excited. It's like many things we do here...
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Hell, I'm still excited about flightplan/wind uplinks.
Are you the kind of guy who arrives fashionably late at the party and gets excited at a half eaten bowl of chips and browning guacamole?
That would be epic!
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Is that what I paid $50 for?Are you the kind of guy who arrives fashionably late at the party and gets excited at a half eaten bowl of chips and browning guacamole?
Actually yeah, at the last shop it was the FO's job to type all that crap in, and input the winds manually. 'Bout had enough of that!
Kinda funny though, at the new place, the FMC work is listed as the CA's duty. Occasionally I run by a guy who asks me if I want to put it in for practice. "Nah, that's alright."
Polar742
All the responsibility none of the authority
It's not a "Pilot Flying" duty? Weird. Why would a man program another man's FMS?
Captain always programs the box here. For his jet it might be carry over from the whale freighters. On a 2 pilot crew, whoever does the outside also preflight the upper deck & main deck when it's loaded. It takes quite a bit of time.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
From what I'm told, our procedures are basically 747 minus a couple engines. Flows included.
ERfly
Well-Known Member
How do I know what airline you're talking about?
greg1016
Trustworthy Source
New York oceanic here. We never remind anyone to log on, because whether they are CPDLC or not is not our concern, it is not required and I couldn't care less if you are data link or HF. Generally though, CPDLC aircraft get better and faster service. All comm changes are automatically sent out by our system, data link and voice alike.
