CRJ/ERJ Type

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meritflyer

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Why are the types for the CRJ and ERJ so FREAKING EXPENSIVE!!!! Schools charge 20-30K for them. A B-737 can run you around 5-7K!
 
Yeah and all that type does is tell the interviewer that you were dumb enough to fall for the school's hype.
 
The only reason you should be buying an ERJ type is if you just bought a Legacy. And in that case it shouldnt be from RAA or some "go to the airlines" program, but simuflite/flightsafety/etc.

If you didnt buy a legacy, dont worry about it, let whoever hires you train you.
 
I dont think paying for a type is bad (INCOMING!!). If you've got the cash to toss, do it. If ther guy doing the interview thinks you are that stupid for getting a type, he is just as stupid when he says "welcome aboard". Most of the guys I have known that got their type, got a job within half the time as any other applicant. Not to say I am getting a type.. I dont have the cash but I dont think its the fateful decision people make it out to be. BIG FREAKING DEAL! FSA, ATP, Utah State University, Westwind, ect. all offer RJ programs that are expensive and offer advanced RJ training in systems and FMS.(what you'll most likely be flying when you are a regional pilot).

There are better places than others to get your type (better than RAA or Jet University). Simcom, CAE, and even Bombardier offers type school. Just another checkride in another airplane. They all cost cash. If you are willing to put the money up, thats fine with me.
 
Ummmm....Yeah....OK

The more people who shell out the cash for an RJ type rating, the more airlines may want to make that the quid pro quo. It just doesn't make any sense to anyway. The Airline who hires you should pay for this.
On the flip side, I would totally take an RJ systems class that a school may offer, (Not some 10,000 dollar thing) just so that I would be more confident in my new hire class at an airline. But to pay 30 grand for a type is detremental to the profession (IMO) and at the very least a financial mistake. How does that saying go? A fool and his money......
 
CRoper said:
But to pay 30 grand for a type is detremental to the profession (IMO) and at the very least a financial mistake. How does that saying go? A fool and his money......
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not to mention thats a type the airline cant use anyway. It'll get them out of doing the new FAA SIC type paperwork, but when it comes time to upgrade you have to do the type-rating all over again anyway. That 30k you plopped down was for Commercial Pilot/CL65, not Airline Transport Pilot/CL65. The fact you were typed as a commercial pilot at that point will make absolutely no difference.
 
CRoper said:
The more people who shell out the cash for an RJ type rating, the more airlines may want to make that the quid pro quo. It just doesn't make any sense to anyway. The Airline who hires you should pay for this.
On the flip side, I would totally take an RJ systems class that a school may offer, (Not some 10,000 dollar thing) just so that I would be more confident in my new hire class at an airline. But to pay 30 grand for a type is detremental to the profession (IMO) and at the very least a financial mistake. How does that saying go? A fool and his money......
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I can see your point. Money aside for a second.. as for "RJ systems courses" - I dont see these as any different from type school except more of a ripoff. Pay 10K to learn the RJ systems and then they send you on your way with a little completion certificate. Airlines already have agreements with ATP to interview you when you pay their thousands for their RJ school with low time. You want to learn a little bit about the RJ prior to your airline training? Go buy a book for $30. Whats the difference between RJ systems course and type school? The type rating.
 
I agree, I wouldn't pay 10,000 either. I was thinking more along the lines of a college type course where you just pay the tuition. I believe that UVSC has got somthing like that going on now. Something like that would make the initial hire training easier, and may improve your chances of being assigned to the jet as opposed to a turboprop. But I definitely wouldn't shell out any serious cash for a class or type rating.
 
meritflyer said:
Whats the difference between RJ systems course and type school? The type rating.
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dont forget the price tag. 6k(ATP) vs 30k. Are the words "CL-65" or "EMB 145" on your comm cert worth 24k?
 
No airline requires a CRJ or an ERJ type rating.

According to "sources", the type doesn't mean anything other than you had an extra $30,000 to spend.

I thought we'd already been over this?
 
CRoper said:
and may improve your chances of being assigned to the jet as opposed to a turboprop.
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i doubt a type and time in a simulator will help that. If the company is going to give preference its probably going to be to guys with time in an actual airplane (ie line experience) or those that do exceptional in a sim ride during the interview. Other than that, needs of the company and seniority bidding. Dont diss the turboprop either, you'll probably end up with PIC turbine a lot quicker than the guy hired into the jet. I know guys on turboprops that'll have thier PIC turbine and apps into airtran/jblue/etc before i'm likely to see upgrade on the 145.
 
Doug Taylor said:
No airline requires a CRJ or an ERJ type rating.

According to "sources", the type doesn't mean anything other than you had an extra $30,000 to spend.

I thought we'd already been over this?
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I know its an old subject. If those ratings dont mean anything, why are the guys with them being snatched up with 1/4 the time of instructors?

Ran into a girl at PHX who was a deadhead on a flight to SLC who was picked up by ASA with 400/90 CMEL and CRJ type. Now, thats not because its worthless right?
 
That information is specious at best.

I don't want to 'out' the guy, but I generally throw my 'hey, does this matter?' questions by people intimately familiar with the hiring process. Else I'd be talking out of my rump.

There are probably more lefties per capita in ground school than there are in a normal sampling of the population at large.

Do airlines prefer lefties?
 
Well, Doug would know better than I, but I never said having a type doesn't help....I just said (IMO) that it hurts the profession and isn't worth the money. Another thing that I may get nailed for saying, but it seems to me that being a female can be a bonus when applying to the airlines......Just Sayin....:)




BTW: DOUG, sorry I missed your post a couple weeks ago. Kristie too. But to answer your question of "Holy Cow! Are you The Wifes husband?" Yes. Yes I am.....:)
 
we're just giving you our opinions on the matter. Sounds like you are already convinced a CRJ type is the way into an FO job, let us know how it turns out.

PS: im part of the left handed conspiracy
 
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