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E_Dawg
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Yeah it is confusing, especially since you can combine some checkrides, assuming you already have some of them done...
Like if you do you're private in a single, then a private multi add on, you'll end up having to do two instrument checkrides....
Anyway hopefully that didnt make the confusion worse; basically a lot of people do it like this:
Pvt
Inst
Comm single
CFI
CFII
Multi comm inst
MEI
and some go:
pvt
inst
comm single
comm inst multi
cfi
cfii
mei
the difference being when you get the multi rating
We clear? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/insane.gif course there are more variations but that's pretty much how it goes
Like if you do you're private in a single, then a private multi add on, you'll end up having to do two instrument checkrides....
Anyway hopefully that didnt make the confusion worse; basically a lot of people do it like this:
Pvt
Inst
Comm single
CFI
CFII
Multi comm inst
MEI
and some go:
pvt
inst
comm single
comm inst multi
cfi
cfii
mei
the difference being when you get the multi rating
We clear? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/insane.gif course there are more variations but that's pretty much how it goes
RiddlePilot
New Member
I did Private SE, Private ME, Instrument, Commercial ME, Commercial SE, etc.
Very multi intensive, but as Ed said, I ended up having two instrument rides. This is great if you want multi time, but not great for your wallet...
Very multi intensive, but as Ed said, I ended up having two instrument rides. This is great if you want multi time, but not great for your wallet...
RiddlePilot
New Member
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Two instrument rides? Huh? Now I'm confused. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Well, kinda sorta. The way ERAU worked is that I did my primary instrument training in a C172 (doing BAI, tracking, holds, arcs), and then took a checkride in the single. I then moved into the Seminole to finish off my training with approaches and XCs, and then took another checkride (my real instrument ride).
But hey, that was Part 141...not too sure how things can be done under Part 61.
Two instrument rides? Huh? Now I'm confused. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Well, kinda sorta. The way ERAU worked is that I did my primary instrument training in a C172 (doing BAI, tracking, holds, arcs), and then took a checkride in the single. I then moved into the Seminole to finish off my training with approaches and XCs, and then took another checkride (my real instrument ride).
But hey, that was Part 141...not too sure how things can be done under Part 61.
gomntwins
Well-Known Member
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Two instrument rides? Huh? Now I'm confused. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
So far I've done
Private SE
Private ME
Instrument (in a ME)
Where's the second instrument ride?
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You do not need to truly do a second ride, although... if you've been filing and flying instruments in a single, that has been illegal. You need to go up with a DE and prove that you can fly a single engine airplane on instruments... it's possible to incorporate that into your commercial ride if you want, but if you want to fly instruments now in a single... make an appointment with a DE. It won't be a true checkride, just an approach or two in a single, and that's all.
Two instrument rides? Huh? Now I'm confused. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
So far I've done
Private SE
Private ME
Instrument (in a ME)
Where's the second instrument ride?
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You do not need to truly do a second ride, although... if you've been filing and flying instruments in a single, that has been illegal. You need to go up with a DE and prove that you can fly a single engine airplane on instruments... it's possible to incorporate that into your commercial ride if you want, but if you want to fly instruments now in a single... make an appointment with a DE. It won't be a true checkride, just an approach or two in a single, and that's all.
casey
Well-Known Member
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You do not need to truly do a second ride, although... if you've been filing and flying instruments in a single, that has been illegal. You need to go up with a DE and prove that you can fly a single engine airplane on instruments... it's possible to incorporate that into your commercial ride if you want, but if you want to fly instruments now in a single... make an appointment with a DE. It won't be a true checkride, just an approach or two in a single, and that's all.
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If you do your insrument in a single, then you need to do a single engine approach in a multi to get multi-instrument privleges. (task B+C of area VII)
If you do your instrument in a multi, you've satisfied all the PTS tasks for instrument airplane, and you dont need to do a single-instrument ride.
You do not need to truly do a second ride, although... if you've been filing and flying instruments in a single, that has been illegal. You need to go up with a DE and prove that you can fly a single engine airplane on instruments... it's possible to incorporate that into your commercial ride if you want, but if you want to fly instruments now in a single... make an appointment with a DE. It won't be a true checkride, just an approach or two in a single, and that's all.
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If you do your insrument in a single, then you need to do a single engine approach in a multi to get multi-instrument privleges. (task B+C of area VII)
If you do your instrument in a multi, you've satisfied all the PTS tasks for instrument airplane, and you dont need to do a single-instrument ride.
gomntwins
Well-Known Member
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You do not need to truly do a second ride, although... if you've been filing and flying instruments in a single, that has been illegal. You need to go up with a DE and prove that you can fly a single engine airplane on instruments... it's possible to incorporate that into your commercial ride if you want, but if you want to fly instruments now in a single... make an appointment with a DE. It won't be a true checkride, just an approach or two in a single, and that's all.
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If you do your insrument in a single, then you need to do a single engine approach in a multi to get multi-instrument privleges. (task B+C of area VII)
If you do your instrument in a multi, you've satisfied all the PTS tasks for instrument airplane, and you dont need to do a single-instrument ride.
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I was under that impression also, but I was told otherwise by both a DE and also a FSDO a couple of weeks ago. At the moment I'm trying to figure out where in the hell it says this... so I'll keep looking. It could be that I'm wrong... it wouldn't be the first time!
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You do not need to truly do a second ride, although... if you've been filing and flying instruments in a single, that has been illegal. You need to go up with a DE and prove that you can fly a single engine airplane on instruments... it's possible to incorporate that into your commercial ride if you want, but if you want to fly instruments now in a single... make an appointment with a DE. It won't be a true checkride, just an approach or two in a single, and that's all.
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If you do your insrument in a single, then you need to do a single engine approach in a multi to get multi-instrument privleges. (task B+C of area VII)
If you do your instrument in a multi, you've satisfied all the PTS tasks for instrument airplane, and you dont need to do a single-instrument ride.
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I was under that impression also, but I was told otherwise by both a DE and also a FSDO a couple of weeks ago. At the moment I'm trying to figure out where in the hell it says this... so I'll keep looking. It could be that I'm wrong... it wouldn't be the first time!