Commutable?

86BravoPapa

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I'd appreciate any information about the possibility of commuting, from current or former pilots of companies like Air Choice One, Southern Airways Express, any of the survey companies, etc., which provide low time opportunities to new commercial pilots.

I know I've seen information like this in some of the company specific threads, but can't seem to find anything specific during my last few attempts.

Thanks in advance for any help.
 
How low time are you? The commutable survey companies start around 500 hours, however if you don't mind being gone for up to 7 months at a time the pictometry vendors that do survey will hire with a fresh commercial and they'll pay for you to commute at the start and end of the season. Sandhills in Nebraska does a rotation though that's not bad, AA does a 6/2, but their safety record has plummeted (lost in aztec this season and had multiple engine failures the last two years) and their pay has gone nowhere (actually down as hotels and rental cars have gotten much more expensive during that time).
 
How low time are you? The commutable survey companies start around 500 hours, however if you don't mind being gone for up to 7 months at a time the pictometry vendors that do survey will hire with a fresh commercial and they'll pay for you to commute at the start and end of the season. Sandhills in Nebraska does a rotation though that's not bad, AA does a 6/2, but their safety record has plummeted (lost in aztec this season and had multiple engine failures the last two years) and their pay has gone nowhere (actually down as hotels and rental cars have gotten much more expensive during that time).

Thanks for the response. Right now I'm just over 300TT.
 
I looked at Southern Airways Express, and commuting isn’t really an option from what I gathered. Pilots were expected to live in the end cities (so they’d be available for early morning/late night connections to the hubs). Since you’re the only game in town for those EAS locations, you’re the commute.

Somebody step in and correct me if I understood that wrong.
 
Thanks for the response. Right now I'm just over 300TT.

Best of luck. If you don't mind working somewhere else this summer you could probably double your time in a few months flying 182s out of a drop zone somewhere else and in the fall move on to a survey company. You might also be able to get on with a Pictometry vendor like Landcare for some summer work, but I'd advise you to stay the hell away from Air America.
 
Best of luck. If you don't mind working somewhere else this summer you could probably double your time in a few months flying 182s out of a drop zone somewhere else and in the fall move on to a survey company. You might also be able to get on with a Pictometry vendor like Landcare for some summer work, but I'd advise you to stay the hell away from Air America.

Thank you for the information. I've definitely seen a number of horror stories about AA. I'm open to any options that allow time building and experience development.
 
I worked for an airline that outstation based flying EAS routes. In short, the commute sucked. your trips were all day trips starting at the outstation flying into the hub and back out to the outstation. At normal airlines, the airline provides the hotel at the outstation. At the outstation basing airline, the hotel is on you - or you try to find a place to live - since there were only 3 crews based at the outstation there isn't a crashpad kind of situation either.

You weren't based in the outstation long enough either to be able to sign an apartment lease - most times you could only hold the outstation for a bid period or two before a bump and flush would reshuffle everyone's outstation base and now you were stuck in a lease that you had to pay to break (if you rented)

One thing we were able to finagle between the pilots was on the pilot's last day, the pilot would fly in to the hub, and then do a jetbridge swap and then catch a commute back to wherever he was going, the commuting pilot needing to fly out to the outstation would operate back out to the outstation.

As far as finding temporary lodging at the outstation, what we ended up doing was crashing the TDY pilot's hotel room. there would be all of the other 5 outstaion-based pilots in the guys room since the airline was paying for his room because he was TDY.
 
I worked for an airline that outstation based flying EAS routes. In short, the commute sucked. your trips were all day trips starting at the outstation flying into the hub and back out to the outstation. At normal airlines, the airline provides the hotel at the outstation. At the outstation basing airline, the hotel is on you - or you try to find a place to live - since there were only 3 crews based at the outstation there isn't a crashpad kind of situation either.

You weren't based in the outstation long enough either to be able to sign an apartment lease - most times you could only hold the outstation for a bid period or two before a bump and flush would reshuffle everyone's outstation base and now you were stuck in a lease that you had to pay to break (if you rented)

One thing we were able to finagle between the pilots was on the pilot's last day, the pilot would fly in to the hub, and then do a jetbridge swap and then catch a commute back to wherever he was going, the commuting pilot needing to fly out to the outstation would operate back out to the outstation.

As far as finding temporary lodging at the outstation, what we ended up doing was crashing the TDY pilot's hotel room. there would be all of the other 5 outstaion-based pilots in the guys room since the airline was paying for his room because he was TDY.

That sounds rouuuuugh.
 
I looked at Southern Airways Express, and commuting isn’t really an option from what I gathered. Pilots were expected to live in the end cities (so they’d be available for early morning/late night connections to the hubs). Since you’re the only game in town for those EAS locations, you’re the commute.

Somebody step in and correct me if I understood that wrong.

They have CASS now, though.
 
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