Commercial pilot privileges

[dlcmdrx]

Can a Executive charter fly a cessna citation legally to the U.S from lets say... Venezuela with only two commercial pilots in the cockpit??

My guess is no, since it would be consider common carriage, right??

Therefore at least one of the pilots must be an ATp right??

Im not familiar with the ATP regs, so another question.. what is a frozen ATp? does it have the same privileges as a normal one??
Cheers.

 

[CoffeeIcePapers]

FAR 135.243

No certificate holder may use a person, nor may any person serve, as pilot in command in passenger-carrying operations—

(1) Of a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger-seat configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119 of this chapter, unless that person holds an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings and, if required, an appropriate type rating for that airplane.

So it depends on the airplane and their operation.

There is no such thing as a frozen ATP in the United States. In Europe, you can take the JAA written exams and can do line training with a "frozen ATP".

 

[will_fly_for_bandwith]

I thought type ratings were ATP rides (to the same standards).. therefore if you have the ATP written done, have all the required experence and pass the type you get an ATP?? But I have no idea what I am talking about

 

[USMCmech]

Can a Executive charter fly a cessna citation legally to the U.S from lets say... Venezuela with only two commercial pilots in the cockpit??

My guess is no, since it would be consider common carriage, right??

Therefore at least one of the pilots must be an ATP right??

Im not familiar with the ATP regs, so another question.. what is a frozen ATP? does it have the same privileges as a normal one??
Cheers.

I'm not sure I understand your questions.

Can a US crew fly a US registered jet overseas? Yes they can, provided they meet the US requirements for that airplane. You can be typed in a Jet without an ATP, only a comercial MEL. I've meet a few hard working young guys who have gotten typed in a Jet before they were old enough (23 years) to get the ATP. Heck you can be typed with only a Private MEL / Inst airplane if you are flying yourself (John Travolta). The standards for the checkride are the same, but the level of pilot certificate doesn't matter.

The common carriage question has nothing to do with having an ATP.

The FAA does not issue any sort of frozen ATP, that's a European thing.