Commercial Multi Initial

WheatonPilot68

WheatonPilot68

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I'm getting my Comm. Multi by the end of Feb. and had questions regarding the Practical. It is going to be with the taken in an Aztec with Leslie Henninger out of KDPA(Chicago Area). Any one else taken their comm multi with her? Also what commercial tasks do I have to perform on the multi? And which ones will I not have to do on the single add-on?

Thanks.
 
If you do a YouTube search for her there are several lectures about checkrides she has given. I am not a pilot (yet) but she seems down to earth.
 
Open the CMEL PTS and see the maneuvers listed, then for the CSEL add on open the corresponding PTS and look at the additional rating task table, it will tell you what needs to be done.

My CMEL ride consisted of an xtry, diversion, stalls, steep turns, slow flight, vmc demo, engine shut down and restart, single engine ILS, single engine pattern, engine cut on takeoff, go around, short field t/o and lndg

My CSEL ride, if I remember correctly was steep turns, chandelle, and landings. Maybe 8s on pylons, i don't remember
 
Leslie is the most down to earth, fair examiner I've dealt with. I did my PPL ME Add-on with her last summer out of KDPA. As far as maneuvers, they're all listed out in the PTS. Leslie is common sense and like I said extremely fair, she'll give you enough rope to hang yourself though.

I look forward to your review, I'm doing my Comm. Multi with her in the next month or so.

Ajax BU's ride review sounds right, only thing I think is missing is Accelerated Stalls as well.
 
get and study the comm. PTS - what they added in the latest version are accelerated stalls!
below 1500agl they are not allowed to cut an engine any more so you will get only simulated one by throttle idle.
My DPE made me simulate a takeoff at altitude and actually shut down one engine.
Additionaly had a simulated gear failure - he had just pulled the circuit breaker and made me troubleshoot...
Oh and got to do a Hold for the non-restricted ME COM
 
ozziecat35 said:
Leslie is the most down to earth, fair examiner I've dealt with. I did my PPL ME Add-on with her last summer out of KDPA. As far as maneuvers, they're all listed out in the PTS. Leslie is common sense and like I said extremely fair, she'll give you enough rope to hang yourself though.

I look forward to your review, I'm doing my Comm. Multi with her in the next month or so.

Ajax BU's ride review sounds right, only thing I think is missing is Accelerated Stalls as well.
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i forgot about that, though it wasn't on the ride when I had to do it
 
Not sure if you took your ride yet; but go to youtube and search for leslie's name and watch the multi-engine video. The video covers everything that will be in your oral.
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Emergency Descent too, Leslie likes those...
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Yea that too, and she also loves to yank your engine on the ILS 9 at ARR
 
Well how did it go? I just passed my Comm. ME ride with her on Monday morning (the 25th.)
 
It was thorough!! Almost a 3 hour oral. Obviously know the PTS, but here's big things I recall from my ride.

*Airspace (Inside and Out)
*Oxygen Reqs per 91.211
*Know the basics of a pressurized airplane (components, etc)
*Understand Performance Calculations for your airplane stone cold
*W/B shifts
*Systems
*VFR Flight Planning-should be a no brainer, but I've become rusty and using a navlog is not my forte anymore.

She had me plan a flight to Fort Wayne. We left DPA on 20R, I had used Fermi Lab, 88, Naper Aero, Clow, and LOT as my initial checkpoints, then I got a diversion to Aurora. Went to ARR and did a shortfield landing, then shortfield takeoff. Engine failure on upwind, then off to the northwest for the airwork. Finished with the SE ILS to 10 back home to DPA.
 
Im scheduled for my checkride next Friday (April 19th). I feel pretty confident over everything, however, I have run across one logbook question.
61.129:
(b) For an airplane multiengine rating. Except as provided in paragraph (i) of this section, a person who applies for a commercial pilot certificate with an airplane category and multiengine class rating must log at least 250 hours of flight time as a pilot that consists of at least:
(1) 100 hours in powered aircraft, of which 50 hours must be in airplanes.
(2) 100 hours of pilot-in-command flight time, which includes at least--
(i) 50 hours in airplanes; and
(ii) 50 hours in cross-country flight of which at least 10 hours must be in airplanes.
(3) 20 hours of training on the areas of operation listed in Sec. 61.127(b)(2) of this part that includes at least--
[(i) Ten hours of instrument training using a view-limiting device including attitude instrument flying, partial panel skills, recovery from unusual flight attitudes, and intercepting and tracking navigational systems. Five hours of the 10 hours required on instrument training must be in a multiengine airplane;]
(ii) 10 hours of training in a multiengine airplane that has a retractable landing gear, flaps, and controllable pitch propellers, or is turbine-powered, or for an applicant seeking a multiengine seaplane rating, 10 hours of training in a multiengine seaplane that has flaps and a controllable pitch propeller;

I have 25 hours of Dual Instrument time, however, that has 22 hours carry over from my instrument airplane in the same multi-engine aircraft.

So the question is: Do those hours count or no?
 
I think you're reading too much into it. No where in there does it say you have to have done the 61.129 3 i training ONLY for this ride. Do you have 10 hours under the hood? Were 5 of those hours in a multi? I think you're good. But I'm not a CFI or DPE...

Make sure you have that taxi chart out with Leslie!
 
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