Well Republic is the other option but you definitely don't have the hours for them either. I recommend building time and learning from students as a right seat CFI/CFII. You will be better off in the long run, trust everyone on this site who tells you that.
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Well Republic is the other option but you definitely don't have the hours for them either. I recommend building time and learning from students as a right seat CFI/CFII. You will be better off in the long run, trust everyone on this site who tells you that.
sorrygottarunway
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I think they gave me the saab because they saw my '86 Saab 9000 parked outside, falling apart, with a crooked grill, and knew I could deal with the real aircraft.
Cruise
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You want to know what horsesh*t is? [size=+1]Your post![/size] If you met someone that was doing that, well: shame on them.
I KNOW NO ONE THAT DID THAT WHILE I WAS AT THE AVIATOR....both as a student, and as an instructor. For you to state so emphatically that students/ instructors have 3 people logging time is just complete B.S. Who do you think you are, an omniscient being?
If a couple people "supposedly" told you they did this, then they are just unethical. It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do w/ the Aviator, and everything to do w/ the character of those FEW people involved. That could happen anywhere. The flight school and all other students/ instructors (present and past) are victims of circumstance.
My $0.02
SmitteyB
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You want to know what horsesh*t is? [size=+1]Your post![/size] If you met someone that was doing that, well: shame on them.
I KNOW NO ONE THAT DID THAT WHILE I WAS AT THE AVIATOR....both as a student, and as an instructor. For you to state so emphatically that students/ instructors have 3 people logging time is just complete B.S. Who do you think you are, an omniscient being?
If a couple people "supposedly" told you they did this, then they are just unethical. It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do w/ the Aviator, and everything to do w/ the character of those FEW people involved. That could happen anywhere. The flight school and all other students/ instructors (present and past) are victims of circumstance.
My $0.02
I agree, I never saw that.
Cruise
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:whatever: :banghead:
Perhaps this was an old practice before you got there and its now moot. big deal. I just don't think the reputation of the school has really done much for its pilots. I could be totally wrong. I probably am and you know what...who cares. If you or any other pilot is gainfully employed then no problem right?
Cruise
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Oh, ok, since I'm there to defend my experience at the Aviator, I'm somehow afraid? Get a clue!
Right, no problem......until jokers like you start to bash an entire school on the "supposed" action of a few people.
And you're completely wrong. Aviator pilots are being hired at many regionals and 135 gigs. So, I guess the "reputation" isn't as tarnished as you'd have everyone believe.
Man, you are one angry dude. Ever thought your ego gets you into a lot of trouble. It gets you into all the trouble you've ever been in. I'm wrong for painting a broad brush stroke over AriBen. I've just run into a lot of folks who looked at their feet when they mentioned they got their multi time there. You obviously loved your experience. Great. I just pointed out an experience I had. All experiences at a flight school aren't rosy. When you're 30 call your friends and tell 'em you're not going to be angry anymore.
Cruise
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Hey, I'm not angry. Just setting the record straight! I didn't necessarily love my experience at Aviator. I didn't dislike it either; it's a good program for the money. But, we aren't talking about my likes or dislikes about the Aviator. What we are talking about is, you're personal "second-hand" information about an entire schools Motis Operendi regarding the logging of time. It's obvious to me you don't know what you're talking about.
Oh, BTW, when I have the ability to travel BACK in time to my 30th B-day, I'll let all my friends know. So, I say again, GET A CLUE!
kellwolf
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No kidding. It's a "we're in this together" biz. The passenger doesn't see someone with epaulets reading a release behind the counter at the gate, they just see an airline person there. So, when someone says "Excuse me. Do you know what gate XXX goes out of?" are you gonna say "Uh, I'm a pilot. That's not my job" or are you gonna try to find the answer? Remember, the decision you make in that situation could affect that passenger's view of the whole airline, thus affecting their decision to fly that airline again. It could also have an impact on what they tell their friends about the airline. Think SWA magically became the way they are?
I went to ATP, but we had 3 ariben guys in my new hire class. They were all good guys and ariben had a good rep. Just dont believe everything you hear...COUGH:colganFO:COUGH
That is SO true.
Get off your lazy ass, walk out in the middle of the hall so you can point and say, "Gate 15 is right down there".
I used to be cranky pilot too for a period of time until I realized that if my mother who at the time hadn't flown before, had theoretically gotten lost at the airport and a pilot said, "Ain't my job, I fly planes" I'd probably take him out back and whip his ass.
Not really, but I'd probably want to.
Oddly, Doug Parker's threatened corn-holing of our airline (OMG, I said "our" airline that's scary) really did a good job at unifying the employee groups here at Southernjets. It's hard to describe.
Well I never said anything about the quality of the individual attending AriBen. Just repeated exactly what I saw and what was told to me by two guys who attended.
Sorry for offending a couple of you guys. Something snapped inside of Cruise. I don't know why. Perhaps you saw something at AriBen you found suspect and had to get over the fact that you put up money to fly there. You made amends with yourself and when someone shines the light on something negative about the place...all hell breaks loose in the realm of the subconscious. I got that impression immediately with all the quick anger. Relax. I'm a person you'd get along with immediately if you knew me outside this one dimensional soul less posting palace. I mean no harm.
Sorry for offending a couple of you guys. Something snapped inside of Cruise. I don't know why. Perhaps you saw something at AriBen you found suspect and had to get over the fact that you put up money to fly there. You made amends with yourself and when someone shines the light on something negative about the place...all hell breaks loose in the realm of the subconscious. I got that impression immediately with all the quick anger. Relax. I'm a person you'd get along with immediately if you knew me outside this one dimensional soul less posting palace. I mean no harm.
Cruise
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Fine....however,nothing snapped and there are no amends to be made. Get over yourself, please!
Cruise
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So now I'm nearing 40? Huh, maybe you know more about me than I do.
There is no "authority," and I have no control issues. I guess I'm not allowed to defend my schools reputation and that of my peers, according to you. Oh well, you and your completely uninformed opinion no longer matter to me.......it's obvious you just don't get it and most likely never will. It is also no longer worth my effort to continue this ridiculous banter. Keep up the good work out there.....super sleuth!
Oh yah, thanks for the serenity advice. I'll keep that in mind.
ColganFO
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There has been many occasions when I have, helped people or physically guided them to someone who could advise them.
I've helped carry bags before, loaded aircraft, pushed wheelchairs, and once stayed on for an extra 2 hours helping someone who didn't speak the lanaguage or know were she was.
Sometimes we need to put ourselves aside and put other people first, thats what service is all about. All that an airline provides is service.