Clouds inside the cockpit?

coldsolderjoint

coldsolderjoint

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If your flyign through a cloud and you open the winder, will the cloud come into the cockpit?

If it does, i would suspect that you wouldnt be able to see the instruments and have no idea of what your plane is doing?

So how would you fix the situation?

Also, would water like condense on the panel? Would this cause problems? As Jack Swigert in Apollo 13 said, " Like driving a toaster through a car wash."
 
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If your flyign through a cloud and you open the winder, will the cloud come into the cockpit?


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Ummm...not really...???
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I mean, maybe if you opened it wide enough...I suppose it could come in for a second....

Well, it would have to stay open and have the same temp as the outside air....

Why am I even entertaining this question??
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If it does, i would suspect that you wouldnt be able to see the instruments and have no idea of what your plane is doing?


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Hmmmm....
 
Yes, clouds will get inside through the window. This makes it difficult to see where you're going in imc. It's not that big of a deal, you just have to put your face really close to the panel to see where you are going. Or turn the autopilot on if ya got one.
 
thanks!

well we are on the subject of winders.

according to the PIM for the 172sp, vne (never exceed) is 163 kts and vno ( maximum window open speed) is also 163 kts...

so this would lead me to beleave that you can fly all the time with the winder open?

theres only two things that would come to mind though, would the wind noise be so loud that it would trigger your headset mike?

and, would it be difficult to close the window while in cruise? if it wasnt able to be closed, then your mike was full of wind noise, you might not be able to talk to controllers?

if you couldnt close the winder in cruise, would you be able to slip your side out of the wind and close it?

would this be the same procedure to follow if the baggage door flew open in flight? would the noise trigger your mike?

what are the noise canceling properties of the common aviation headset. because i know sometimes, if i have the mike positioned right and the air vent in the wrong spot, it will click it on..

according to the cd ground school im taking, it said that an open baggage door rarely causes the plane to crash, its that the pilot gets to concerend with it and forgets to fly the airplane..
 
I fly with the window open all the time with my arm hanging out just like in a car....never had a cloud come in the window and never will unless I stop midair for awhile. If you drive a car through the fog does it come in the window and make it so you can't see - NO of course not ...same thing.

Also never had my mike triggered by wind noise with the window open or in an open cockpit airplane....well maybe I did but I didn't know it.

Yes, you can still close the window/door in cruise, even at 150+ as long as your not a wuss
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Winder? Could you explain this to me?

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He's from Tennessee...
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Would that explain the ridiculous questions too Lloyd!
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LOL - The responses are great

The only time I can think of where you might get a "cloud" inside the cockpit is if you experience a rapid decompression.
 
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If your flyign through a cloud and you open the winder, will the cloud come into the cockpit?

If it does, i would suspect that you wouldnt be able to see the instruments and have no idea of what your plane is doing?

So how would you fix the situation?

Also, would water like condense on the panel? Would this cause problems? As Jack Swigert in Apollo 13 said, " Like driving a toaster through a car wash."

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Inside a cloud is like a good think fog (actually, fog is just a really low cloud). so if you want an answer drive your car around on a foggy day with the window down.

The visiblity inside a cloud is still plenty to see the instruments in the cockpit. Useually you can still see the wingtips unless it's really raining or snowing.

Military fighters fly in formation under IFR. The lead flys by his instruments, and the wingman just stays on his wing and flollows.
 
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so this would lead me to beleave that you can fly all the time with the winder open?


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theres only two things that would come to mind though, would the wind noise be so loud that it would trigger your headset mike?


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you'll probably hear it in your headset

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would it be difficult to close the window while in cruise?


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nope.
 
Okay, in Tennesse, they look through winders. In the outside world, we look through windows.

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Why I be, 'em are ducks.
 
actually in my experience, flying with the window open in the 152, not a lot of air actually comes into the cabin, it usually just goes the same direction as it would if it were contouring the cabin. What my instructor and I would do is whoever wasn't flying would put their hands out the window to form a scoop to redirect the air inside the airplane.
 
If you open the window the cloud is unlikely to come in - the space is too small, but if you open the door.
 
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