Claim that 50% of current pilots will retire within next seven years

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I am considering a career change and recently contacted FlightSafety to get some more information about their programs. I just received a letter from their "Career Development Coordinator" which claims the following: "According to the latest statistics, up to 50% of the current pilots in the workforce will be retiring within the next seven years."

Is this fact or fiction?
 
Was Kit Darby's signature at the bottom?
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I'll play!

ummm...........fiction?
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(rhetorical question of the day: is "fiction" another word for marketing?)
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Re: Claim that 50% of current pilots will retire within next seven yea

Perhaps if they weren't all furloughed already and don't technically have a job to retire from.....
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Two things to remember:

Don't believe the hype and if it sounds too good to be true, in aviation it is.
 
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I am considering a career change and recently contacted FlightSafety to get some more information about their programs. I just received a letter from their "Career Development Coordinator" which claims the following: "According to the latest statistics, up to 50% of the current pilots in the workforce will be retiring within the next seven years.

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What did you expect them to tell you? If they told you the truth, you'd find a different career path.

Case in point: I just bought a new Volvo. The salesman made the one I chose seem like the best vehicle ever made by anyone..ever, and they were the best dealership on the planet. Fortunately, I tuned him out the minute he opened his mouth, like I do most salesman, and let the car do the talking. I bought the car and I don't have a problem with the product, but guess what? After buying it, the dealership refused to return my calls about a small problem after they promised to look into it prior to the sale.

It's been 2 months now and I haven't even received so much as a "thank you" card or phone call after walking in and purchasing a new car right off the showroom floor. Can't say I'm not surprised though. After all, we are dealing with car salesman. Aviation is a lot like that and is pretty much how I feel about any business trying to sell me something while pretending to treat me special prior to the sale only to be treated just the opposite afterward.

Also, anybody who knows anything about statistics knows you can manipulate the numbers to favor any argument. Ask them where they got the statistics from and to show you the evidence.

Bottom line, these people want your money..period! They will tell you whatever you want to hear in order to get your money. Just keep that in mind when dealing with any flight school.
 
This is a little off-topic, but we almost purchased a Volvo a year ago and the dealerships were abhorrent. It was like "Hey, we want an XC90 with AWD and premium sound..." Their response was "Well, we only have two wheel drive XC90s with the family package and they're selling for far above retail or you can order one and wait seven months and still pay above retail."

Another dealership (N. Scottsdale) wouldn't return our telephone calls whatsoever.

So glad I didn't buy one!
 
You live in Arizona....what do you need the all wheel drive for??? NY I could understand, but AZ? No rain...definately no snow. Sandstorms maybe?
 
We've got rain statewide and lots of snow up north in the wintertime. The AWD in our current car came in mega handy when driving home from Las Vegas after the the first annual JC thingy.
 
I don't know about 50%, but I do remember seeing a pie graph on the ALPA bulletin board at the CAL training center in IAH. Had a bell curve which showed its peak in 2007-2008, with something like 200 retirements? There will be a lot soon, but nothing to spur any shortage IMHO. Just enough to get some of us up into the "RJ captain for life" ranks...
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Re: Claim that 50% of current pilots will retire within next seven yea

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Was Kit Darby's signature at the bottom?

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"According to the latest statistics, up to 50% of the current pilots in the workforce will be retiring within the next seven years."

Is this fact or fiction?

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Is it accurate or crazy is a better question? It could work like this: I'm retiring this month so there's one in the retire column, but I'm getting another flying job, so there's one in the "vacancy filled" column. Net wash.
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This is a little off-topic, but we almost purchased a Volvo a year ago and the dealerships were abhorrent. It was like "Hey, we want an XC90 with AWD and premium sound..." Their response was "Well, we only have two wheel drive XC90s with the family package and they're selling for far above retail or you can order one and wait seven months and still pay above retail."

Another dealership (N. Scottsdale) wouldn't return our telephone calls whatsoever.

So glad I didn't buy one!

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'78 Surburban

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What did you expect them to tell you? If they told you the truth, you'd find a different career path.

Case in point: I just bought a new Volvo. The salesman made the one I chose seem like the best vehicle ever made by anyone..ever, and they were the best dealership on the planet. Fortunately, I tuned him out the minute he opened his mouth, like I do most salesman, and let the car do the talking. I bought the car and I don't have a problem with the product, but guess what? After buying it, the dealership refused to return my calls about a small problem after they promised to look into it prior to the sale.

It's been 2 months now and I haven't even received so much as a "thank you" card or phone call after walking in and purchasing a new car right off the showroom floor. Can't say I'm not surprised though. After all, we are dealing with car salesman. Aviation is a lot like that and is pretty much how I feel about any business trying to sell me something while pretending to treat me special prior to the sale only to be treated just the opposite afterward.

Also, anybody who knows anything about statistics knows you can manipulate the numbers to favor any argument. Ask them where they got the statistics from and to show you the evidence.

Bottom line, these people want your money..period! They will tell you whatever you want to hear in order to get your money. Just keep that in mind when dealing with any flight school.

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I had a good experience when I bought my 1998 Trans Am last year. The salesman was helpful and courteous. I felt I got a good deal on the car and they even paid to get my stereo taken out of my Miata and put in the T/A at the place I bought my stereo. Got my first oil change for free though I ended up using it at their Pontiac dealership since they seemed to be always busy. I did get a thank you card from the salesman a few weeks later.
 
Re: Claim that 50% of current pilots will retire within next seven yea

Hey, wait a minute here. I gotta speak up for my current profession.

I am sorry you folks have been dealing with, well, the bottom of the barrel when it come to sales.

To a good salesperson, you are not just a number, you are a human being. If I want to make a sale to you and make you happy, I need to make sure that you get what you want, for a price that's reasonable to you and to me, and that you're taken care of after you ink the contract.

That's how a professional handles it. Now, a guy who isn't professional opens his mouth, starts selling you on how great his product is BEFORE he finds out whether or not it makes sense for you. I don't start selling before I find out whether or not what I'm selling makes sense.

I have told people, well, you know what, Joe, it doesn't look like it makes any sense for us work together right now. But keep us in mind when it comes time for you to target the such and such market.

I check in with Joe from time to time, and you know what? Joe returns my calls. The guy who tried to ram whatever down Joe's throat doesn't get his calls returned, and when it's time, guess who gets Joe's business?

I'm sorry you've had to deal with butthead who just, to be blunt, don't know how to sell.

Okay, rant off.
 
Re: Claim that 50% of current pilots will retire within next seven yea

<-----------The beauty of all wheel drive!
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Re: Claim that 50% of current pilots will retire within next seven yea

What I have heard , while I don't know about as much as 50%, is that whatever figures are being estimated is based upon however many airline pilots will be turning 60 this year- I wonder if there are any legitimate statisticians, if there is such a creature, who have tried to find anything out along those lines?
 
Well, the 50% number may or may not be true, but, that does not mean there is going to be a piot shortage, you really need to pay attention to what people say, they are only telling one part of the truth.
 
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