CJ1 vs Mustang

FlyMarines09

FlyMarines09

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Well I was comparing these aircraft today trying to figure out what would be more economical to operate. Before I get into this, what is the difference between the CJ and CJ1 besides avionics? Is it just a s/n thing?

Okay, the Mustang has good takeoff and landing performance but it cruises at about 340kts, and only holds 4 passengers in the back. She has the G1000 package and doing some research via www.aircharterguide.com found that the average price for US operators is about $17-1800/hr.

Now the CJ has room for 6, cruises at 387kts, is equipped with the Proline 21 package and averages about $1800/hr as well. So.... wouldn't that make the CJ, which is NOT a VLJ more economical per seat nm for an operator vs the Mustang or am I missing something here...?

CJ has solid avionics, more seating capacity and cruises faster and has good takeoff and landing performance. What gives?

Not to mention, the price tag is lower on the CJ
 
From wiki:
The original Model 525 CitationJet was developed as a replacement for the Citation and Citation I, being launched in 1989.[1] Basically an all new aircraft, the CitationJet used a modified version of the Citation's forward fuselage, but with a new supercritical laminar flow wing, and a new T-tail configured tailplane. It is powered by two Williams FJ44 turbofans, and features EFIS avionics and single pilot certification. The CitationJet's fuselage is 11 inches (27 cm) shorter than the Citation I's, but has a lowered center aisle for increased cabin height. The CitationJet's first flight was on April 29, 1991, with its first delivery on March 30, 1993.[1]

The Cessna Citation CJ1 (also Model 525) was developed as an improved version of the original CitationJet.[2] The CJ1 improved on the CitationJet by adding a more-modern EFIS avionics suite and a moderate increase in maximum takeoff weight. The CJ1 has been replaced by the CJ1+, which shares the same airframe but has an additional updated avionics package, and FADEC to allow the engines to be controlled by computer rather than mechanical controls.


I think the take off weight is the most important difference. Proline is nice but I think that you would be disappointed with the performance if your expecting to see 387kts.


I love the Cj1. It is a great aircraft. Once you are confident with that airplane it is never boring to fly. I've never flown the mustang. I guess it depends on if the owner of the aircraft needs a lot of depreciation for tax reasons. What are Cj1s going for on the market? Last time I checked the mustang was 2.5m?
 
doing some research via www.aircharterguide.com found that the average price for US operators is about $17-1800/hr.
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Keep in mind, that figure has profit margins built in, along with catering costs, crew, etc.

Try to pick up a copy of the Business & Commercial Aviation Operations Planning Guide. It will have pretty accurate costs for all kinds of aircraft listed.
 
You need to refine your search for answers to the airplane you want to compare. There is a big difference between the CJ, the CJ1, and the CJ1+.

You should compare the Direct Operating Cost (DOC) of the planes to determine what your budget will bear and how you want to use the plane. The numbers you're using are inflated and appear to include additional condsiderations.

Then you need to compare features, luggage space, airports you want to use, number of people you want to move, etc

For example; If you want more room and a private toilet, don't get the Mustang!
 
re: ford mustang parts and accessoriesYou do realize the liabilities you face if you do win the contest and get the lease don't you?#1 you have to be able to qualify for a red carpet lease even though they are giving it to you.#2 you have to pay the tax, title, and license.#3 you are liable for federal and state income taxes for the value of the lease.#4 you of course have to maintain full coverage insurance on it.So, are you really winning much?
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I always shop brothers performance they have always treated me fine
 
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