Civil Air Patrol C-182 Crash outside of LAS

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A CAP G1000-equipped C-182T crashed last night just 12 miles outside of Las Vegas, killing both occupants. Col Ed Lewis, CAP's Pacific Region Director of Operations, and Col Dion DeCamp, commander of CAP's Nevada Wing, had just departed Las Vegas enroute to Rosamond, CA.

Both were retired airline captains, highly regarded in the aviation community. Lewis, a retired Air National Guard colonel, was also an active pilot for NASA when he died.

I'd met both of them on a few occasions, the last being in September at the mission base at Minden during the search for Steve Fossett. Huge loss for the CAP community.

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/11153951.html
 
Very sad to hear. I guess it goes to show that it doesn't matter what your experience level, it can happen to any of us.

I will be interested in hearing what the NTSB comes up with as the cause, the article didn't even speculate (which is unheard of in the media these days).
 
I will be interested in hearing what the NTSB comes up with as the cause, the article didn't even speculate (which is unheard of in the media these days).

You and me both. I can't fathom how a CFIT-type accident is possible with all the terrain awareness/avoidance features of the G1000 system. It has me wondering how knowledgeable/comfortable with the system these two were; older folks seem to have a tough time adapting to the new technology, which may well have been a factor here.

Anybody know what the "black box" data storage features of the G1000 are?
 
That sucks.

But if it can happen to two experienced American Airlines pilots with EFIS, GPS, IRS, GPWS and a bevvy of S. American charts, it can happen to darned near anyone :(
 
Yup. Lewis took early retirement from Pan Am to go work for NASA, DeCamp flew for American. They had a combined total of more than 55,000 hrs flight experience between the two of them. I had no idea I'd met DeCamp's wife; she was the Minden base Incident Commander during the Fossett search, nice lady, super professional.

The CAP press release:

CAP leaders die in plane crash

Pacific Region director of operations, Nev. Wing commander were en route to Rosamond, Calif.
November 09, 2007

NATIONAL HEADQUARTERS -- Two nationally recognized, highly regarded members of the Civil Air Patrol – Col. Edwin W. Lewis Jr., director of operations for CAP’s Pacific Region, and Col. Dion E. DeCamp, commander of CAP’s Nevada Wing – died Thursday evening when their CAP plane crashed south of Las Vegas.

Lewis had traveled to Nellis Air Force Base in Las Vegas to drop off a CAP airplane to be used as an airshow display. He and DeCamp where apparently en route to Rosamond, Calif., Lewis’ hometown, when the crash occurred.

Lewis and DeCamp had enjoyed long and distinguished careers, both in the U.S. Air Force and CAP. Most recently, both men were actively involved in the search for legendary American aviator Steve Fossett.

Lewis, 71, had served in the Civil Air Patrol for more than 50 years. He was a former national vice commander, elected in August 1993. He served in that capacity for one year. Before that, he served as Pacific Region commander for four years. He also was California Wing commander from 1978 to 1982.

Lewis was both a CAP and USAF command pilot with more than 28,000 flight hours.

He retired from Pan Am as a commercial airline pilot in 1989 to become a research pilot with NASA. Since 1997, he worked at Dryden Flight Research Center at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., where he instructed in four aircraft – C-12, C-20A, DC-8 and T-34C – supporting NASA-Dryden flight test programs. He also was the center’s aviation safety officer.

Lewis’ military awards include the Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star, Air Medals, Meritorious Service Medal and others. His CAP awards include Distinguished Service Medals, Exceptional and Meritorious Service Awards, Gill Rob Wilson Award, the Search and Rescue ribbon, and others.

Lewis was a region advisor for the Fossett search.

He is survived by his wife, the former Midge Chrestenson, and two adult sons, Eric and Steven.

DeCamp, 73, of Reno, Nev., became commander of the Nevada Wing in 2003. Most recently, he led the wing’s initial search efforts for Fossett, who disappeared on Labor Day during a solo flight in Nevada. The search for Fossett, who has yet to be found, was the largest in the Civil Air Patrol’s modern-day history.

DeCamp's wife, CAP Lt. Col. E.J. Smith, also served as search incident commander during the Fossett mission. He is survived by adult son, Michael, and two daughters, Kristin and Gayle.

DeCamp joined CAP in 1994. He served as Nevada Wing director of operations, vice commander, representative to the Nevada state SAR Board and Pacific Region director of operations training before becoming Nevada Wing commander.

DeCamp was a CAP and USAF command pilot with more than 27,000 flight hours. He was retired from the California Air National Guard, served in Vietnam and flew C-130 missions worldwide. He retired, as captain, from American Airlines in 1994.

The cause of the crash is unknown at this time. A full investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board is scheduled to begin this morning.

“The CAP family is deeply saddened by this tremendous loss,” said Brig. Gen. Amy S. Courter, CAP interim national commander. “There were no finer members than Col. DeCamp and Col. Lewis.

"Their illustrious volunteer service, which collectively spanned more than seven decades, touched innumerable lives and now, in sorrow, consoles those left behind as a testament to their dedication and commitment to the citizens of their respective communities.”
 
They might have some data they could download but I don't believe any of that stuff is built to survive a crash.
 
We have a G1000 T182T in our CAP squadron. During transition training, we stress the importance of actually looking outside, since many round dial pilots have their heads in the cockpit. Let's face it, it's a really cool toy and it's fun to play with - but very distracting for the mostly VFR CAP mission.

If they didn't have the terrain inset map on (or even if they did), and were both playing with the weather on the MFD, CFIT is entirely possible. I hope there is enough information available during the investigation to reach a probably cause. CAP is getting more G1000s and we need to work the findings back in to the training program.
 
If they didn't have the terrain inset map on (or even if they did), and were both playing with the weather on the MFD, CFIT is entirely possible.
No matter what display is up the Terrain warning will override and flash red.

As well as an aural alarm.

Though that doesn't necessarily mean the warning would come it time.
 
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