Chicago Area Flight Training

WindyCityPilot

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Hey everyone....just wanted to say hi! I've been a long time lurker on this board and finally decided to join in the fun.

I have not yet begun my flight training but am very close to doing so. I was wondering if anyone knows of a good quality flight school and/or flight instructor in the Chicago area? The closest airport to my condo is Palwaukee (KPWK) and Schaumburg Regional (06C) is also not far away. Any thoughts or ideas you guys have would be appreciated!

I also wanted to say thanks to Doug for starting and maintaining this site!

Andy
 
I know PWK has a few different flight schools all of which I have heard horror stories about. 06C has Nortwest Flyers. I have not heard good or bad about them so you might want to check them out.If you go check out 06C have lunch at Pilot Pete's they have good food. I don't know how close to DPA you are. There are several good flight schools at DPA, I would just stay away from Illinois Aviation Academy, in fact I'd run away! Good luck in choosing a flight school, oh and welcome to Jetcareers!
 
Welcome Andy,

I'm kinda biased as I'm a member, but I really like Windy City Flyers (PWK) for the variety of the fleet and the quality of the instructors.

I think your best bet is to take some time to visit schools. I'd meet as many instructors there as you can and ask probing questions about their safety records. It's important that you like the instructors you'll be working with along with flying a well-maintained airplane. Ask them to put a rough cost estimate together for you too.

I really enjoy flying out of PWK but have visited 06C a few times and have heard positive things about Northwest on the field there.

Good luck, let us know what you pick and why
 
Hey Andy, welcome to jetcareers.com!

I'm an instructor at Airway Flight Services at PWK. I'm not sure if we're one of the schools that avi8tor has heard horror stories about (
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I also second the idea that you should look around at all of your options. You're the customer and you should be happy wherever you decide to go.

Later,
Dave
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I would check out Windy City Flyers and Palwaukee Wings... Both seem to have a pretty good reputation in the Chicago area. I would tend to avoid American Flyers and DEFINATELY avoid the "Flight Center" which is located at Service Aviation...
 
Thanks for all the suggestions!

Being new to the whole flight training scene...what are some questions that I should be asking when I go to check out the flight schools? Some are obvious to me such as prices....meet the instructors to see if I get along well with them.....what is the maintenance schedule like on the planes....what else should I be asking?

Thanks again for the suggestions!

Andy
 
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Being new to the whole flight training scene...what are some questions that I should be asking when I go to check out the flight schools?

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Ask them how many hours it will take to get your Private done in... If they say "40 hours, no problem" get up and walk out... they are lying to you... No one can accurately predict how much time an individual will take... When I was a CFI we used to tell potential students that our "average" was about 60-65 hours (40 dual, 20 solo)... Most students fell in this range... If they are pumping you with a lot of "sunshine" be leary...

If you have any specific questions, feel free to drop me a line... I ran a Flight School in the area for 3 years way back when...
 
I actually got the 40th hour the morning of my checkride, but that was by far the exception and not the rule.

Most of my students were in the 65 hour range before their checkride, but one did it as little as 48 or 49 hours, but this guy was supersharp.
 
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I actually got the 40th hour the morning of my checkride, but that was by far the exception and not the rule.

[/ QUOTE ] I am speaking from a "Local Flight School" point of view... At PWK there is a lot of traffic and airspace considerations which generally increase the hours that it takes to complete the Private...
 
Oh I know. I really don't know why I threw that in because it's really the wrong impression that I wanted to make.

The only reason I think I got it done so quickly was the fact that I was one of two flight students, at an uncontrolled airport, where 99% of the time I was flying around, there wasn't another airplane in the pattern.

Plus, since the area was mostly farms and dairies there were loads of good practice areas close to the airport and I never had to worry about weather with it being spring in the San Joaquin valley.
 
Thanks again for the info.....

Another question I have is....my wife's brother lives in Phoenix and I was contemplating taking 2 weeks of vacation, staying with him in Phoenix and getting my PPL in the 14 or so days I would be in PHX. So first off...is this a reasonable amount of time to get my PPL assuming I get my written done before I go out there? And second....do you guys think it would be better to get my PPL flying on the weekends and once or twice during the week while working, or to just devote 2 solids weeks to flight training? I'm leaning more towards training here in Chicago but I have 4 weeks of vacation so using 2 weeks to get my PPL is not out of the question.

L8R!

Andy
 
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....get my PPL flying on the weekends and once or twice during the week while working....

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Do that in my opinion. You'll retain more than cramming it into 2 weeks.
 
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Thanks again for the info.....

Another question I have is....my wife's brother lives in Phoenix and I was contemplating taking 2 weeks of vacation, staying with him in Phoenix and getting my PPL in the 14 or so days I would be in PHX. So first off...is this a reasonable amount of time to get my PPL assuming I get my written done before I go out there? And second....do you guys think it would be better to get my PPL flying on the weekends and once or twice during the week while working, or to just devote 2 solids weeks to flight training? I'm leaning more towards training here in Chicago but I have 4 weeks of vacation so using 2 weeks to get my PPL is not out of the question.

L8R!

Andy

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I think anyone would be hard pressed to go from 0 hours to a Private Pilot Certificate in 2 weeks, no matter how much of a "natural" you are...

The Private is the foundation of all your flying skill, do you really want that to be based on a cram session???

Do your flying over a few months... don't string it out over a year, but a 3-4 months is totally reasonable...

As far as the written, that is a mere formality, there is a LOT more ground school than what you will need to pass the written...
 
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The only reason I think I got it done so quickly was the fact that I was one of two flight students, at an uncontrolled airport, where 99% of the time I was flying around, there wasn't another airplane in the pattern.

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You know, from what I read on the boards, that may be why I finished up so quickly.

Therefore, the Jetcareers Flight Academy needs to be at an uncontrolled airport in a really rural area, is that what you're telling us??
 
If I could get ahold of some facilities and some leaseback aircraft, I'd open one tomorrow.

(Hey Sawyer Aviation, lease me your school, I'll change the name, go over your training curriculum and it'll be a go, mm'kay?
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I'll be the first student at the JC Flight School!
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Thanks for the info Falcon!!

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No problem WindyCityPilot... Good luck with your training! If you have any questions feel free to send me a Private Message anytime!
 
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If I could get ahold of some facilities and some leaseback aircraft, I'd open one tomorrow.

(Hey Sawyer Aviation, lease me your school, I'll change the name, go over your training curriculum and it'll be a go, mm'kay?
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Hey Doug,

I ran a flight school for 3 years (with someone elses money)... Trust me, there are better investments out there!
 
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I think anyone would be hard pressed to go from 0 hours to a Private Pilot Certificate in 2 weeks, no matter how much of a "natural" you are...

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I totally agree with that assessment! Lotta new stuff coming at ya otherwise, and it's difficult to digest it when it's coming out of the fire hose. My CFI did his PPL in about 3 weeks doing nothing but flying and studying, but he said a) that was really pushing it, and b) it wasn't very fun. He was doing it that way to grease the skids on an air national guard pilot slot.

The other thing that you'll soon find out is that flying wears you out! Sure, it may have been only an hour spent seated in an airplane, but it's an hour of intense focus on your part and that level of concentration can really be exhausting. You'll see what I mean when you get rolling.

Otherwise, if you fly 2-3 times a week, you can plan on about 6-8 weeks being a reasonable timeframe to get your PPL, as Falcon Capt said. A "normal" training progression is something like this:

(just a series of concepts, doesn't necessarily correspond to 1 concept per flight; you might need more time on a given area, you might need less.)

a. preflight and ground ops
b. straight & level, turns, climbs, descents (the "4 fundamentals")
c. takeoffs, ground reference maneuvers
d. slow flight/stalls, simulated instrument (hood), unusual attitudes
e. landings/pattern work
f. emergency procedures, more landings
g. solo!
h. precision takeoffs & landings (short & soft field, no-flap)
i. solo practice in the pattern
j. navigation, lost procedures
k. solo practice in the practice area (airwork, ground ref, whatever)
l. dual cross-country
m. local night ops, takeoffs and landings
n. radio navigation (VOR tracking, etc)
o. night dual cross-country
p. solo cross-country
q. long solo cross-country
r. 3 hrs of checkride preparation/solo practice
s. checkride w/DE

As you can see, there's a lot of stuff to cover and much of it mentally "gels" at different rates. Everyone's absolutely right that your primary flight training is laying the foundation for all the flying you'll ever do; focus on becoming the best possible pilot you can, not the one who finished his PPL in the least amount of time or money.

Good luck with whatever you find works best for ya, you've stumbled upon a great reference here in the site...plenty of people in the same stage of things you are, and plenty of others who've been there, done that, and made PLENTY of mistakes you can learn from!
 
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