Qutch
Question everything
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Proof of Flights - Each person is entitled to establish for themself the acceptable threshold they require for proof. . I am limited in what I can say about ongoing test flights. . But I believe some on JC know quite a bit about Federal Government operations like this, and don't need my help. . Gonzo, it is unlikely that they would send Lawrence Livermore Lab scientists, or NASA/Aurora affiliated scientists out to shake people up, selling a radical idea that they hadn't bothered to do a little testing on first, just to make sure the SRM flights do what they want them to do. . In fact, it would be irresponsible. . Imagine the protests, hysteria, mass demonstrations and lawsuits that SRM flights are bound to trigger if/when they are formally announced. . Part 1 of this thread is in the Lav Section, dealing with concealment vs. disclosure of Classified Government Covert Operations (see link below). . It is necessary to understand some history on this. . Government and industry will test products like this out first (protected by classification - National Security), then drag the public along later (something like the illegal Bush warrantless wiretapping program). . First they do it, then they deny it, then they disclose it, and finally they make it retroactively legal. . Government and industry are not going to go to this much trouble to sell the public a program that they have not bothered testing first. . Test Program flights are in the air. . But its OK with me if you want to wait 40 years for the documents to be Declassified.
http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/chemtrails-for-realz-this-time.132101/ . To understand this thread, it may help to review posts #5, #8, #12, #32, #126, and #138 in this Lav Section thread.
The Big Picture - Gonzo, I don't care to convince everyone on JC that Solar Radiation Management Flights (aka "chemtrail flights") take off everyday of the week. . I intentionally chose this topic to illustrate that even this subject, one continually ridiculed on JC as a non-existent fantasy, is a subject of serious discussion among academics. . I chose it to demonstrate that, even though as pilots we might be expected by others to understand the chemtrail controversy, we were so busy laughing, we have completely missed out on the scientific, engineering & political debate now underway regarding Solar Radiation Management Flights. . Ironic I thought, since we would be expected to fly them. . If some people still feel the whole SRM/chemtrail thing is entirely a hoax, until they can personally do a jumpseat ride-along, I'll respect their decision. .
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Qutch nothing you posted show the flights are happening yet. Yes, there is a lot of talk of how planes can be used in GeoEngineering and there has been some one off testing (HARP) but as far as I know, know is doing flights in the open yet and no one has proof the flights are taking place......
Proof of Flights - Each person is entitled to establish for themself the acceptable threshold they require for proof. . I am limited in what I can say about ongoing test flights. . But I believe some on JC know quite a bit about Federal Government operations like this, and don't need my help. . Gonzo, it is unlikely that they would send Lawrence Livermore Lab scientists, or NASA/Aurora affiliated scientists out to shake people up, selling a radical idea that they hadn't bothered to do a little testing on first, just to make sure the SRM flights do what they want them to do. . In fact, it would be irresponsible. . Imagine the protests, hysteria, mass demonstrations and lawsuits that SRM flights are bound to trigger if/when they are formally announced. . Part 1 of this thread is in the Lav Section, dealing with concealment vs. disclosure of Classified Government Covert Operations (see link below). . It is necessary to understand some history on this. . Government and industry will test products like this out first (protected by classification - National Security), then drag the public along later (something like the illegal Bush warrantless wiretapping program). . First they do it, then they deny it, then they disclose it, and finally they make it retroactively legal. . Government and industry are not going to go to this much trouble to sell the public a program that they have not bothered testing first. . Test Program flights are in the air. . But its OK with me if you want to wait 40 years for the documents to be Declassified.
http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/chemtrails-for-realz-this-time.132101/ . To understand this thread, it may help to review posts #5, #8, #12, #32, #126, and #138 in this Lav Section thread.
The Big Picture - Gonzo, I don't care to convince everyone on JC that Solar Radiation Management Flights (aka "chemtrail flights") take off everyday of the week. . I intentionally chose this topic to illustrate that even this subject, one continually ridiculed on JC as a non-existent fantasy, is a subject of serious discussion among academics. . I chose it to demonstrate that, even though as pilots we might be expected by others to understand the chemtrail controversy, we were so busy laughing, we have completely missed out on the scientific, engineering & political debate now underway regarding Solar Radiation Management Flights. . Ironic I thought, since we would be expected to fly them. . If some people still feel the whole SRM/chemtrail thing is entirely a hoax, until they can personally do a jumpseat ride-along, I'll respect their decision. .
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