CFII Checkride

minds_warped

minds_warped

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CFII checkride coming up this week. Any tips? I think I'm ready but damn it if I always forget to start time at the FAF. Anyone know how to "arm" the autopilot for and ILS approach using the bendix? Our plane at the school wants to fly outbound on the localizer when I press the ARM button. However if I press ARM during intercepting the localizer, it will capture and then capture the glide slope (going from ALT arm to GS or approach mode). I just have a feeling the examiner will ask me to do a couples approach.
 
I have mine on friday as well. Of course I don't have much to say, but in regards to starting your time FAF: Prepare the Ts, do the Ts. Personally, before any course change or segment change on an approach, I'll brief the Ts for the next segment. Once you make that segment/course change, do the Ts just as you briefed.

For example (using http://www.myairplane.com/databases/approach/pdfs/00546V12.PDF):

Inbound on the DRK 305 at 6600, I'll say something as such:

"At flag-flip, we'll do the Ts. Time - We'll start time at the FAF just in case we lose DME, we can identify the MAP. Turn - Maintain heading 125 after DRK, Twist - Nav 1 & 2 set to 125, Throttle - We'll descend to 5540' once we have positive course guidance inbound, Talk - Report DRK inbound."

Once we have that flag flip, bingo, I do exactly as I briefed...works great every time. You're also killing two birds with one stone here, since you're briefing yourself, AND teaching.

Anyways, this was probably unnecessarily in-depth, especially to a guy about to do his CFII himself, but hey...this is what works for me.
 
My biggest tip. Stay way ahead of the airplane and talk a lot!! You've already proved you can fly instruments... that's what your first instrument checkride was for... now you need to prove you can talk and shoot an approach. The easiest way.... be 5-6 steps ahead of the plane vs. 3-4, like you were with your instrument ride. That was the trickiest thing for me... staying far enough ahead of the airplane to not only fly nice approaches, but also to talk through them, and have everything I wanted to say about one phase of flight done prior to entering the next phase. Overall, it's not that hard of a ride... just make sure you're not going into it with a "instrument ride from the right seat" type of mentality... it's that type of thinking that gets a lot of people a pink slip!

Good luck!
 
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how about hand flying it?????

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You really need to know how to use the auto-pilot if there is one....
 
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how about hand flying it?????

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im sure he'd like to, but the examiner may ask to see one.

Starting in october if you take in instrument ride in a plane with an autopilot you are going to be required to demonstrate a coupled non-precision approach, as well as using it to assist in any normal tasks.
 
yea i didn't think of that. i didn't know that you they added that to the PTS. I heard that they also took step turns out of the PTS as well.
 
i didn't hear about that. i guess it makes sense. i know they are suppose to take out steep turns in the PTS
 
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Starting in october if you take in instrument ride in a plane with an autopilot you are going to be required to demonstrate a coupled non-precision approach, as well as using it to assist in any normal tasks.

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Wow... I had no idea! It makes perfect sense though... the number of people who use autopilot for flight in IMC is large... and it is easy to lose situational awareness if you stop paying attention because the plane's flying itself. I know that from personal experience. It's good to prove to an examiner that you know everything on your airplane!
 
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Overall, it's not that hard of a ride... just make sure you're not going into it with a "instrument ride from the right seat" type of mentality... it's that type of thinking that gets a lot of people a pink slip!

Can you expand a bit, I'm not sure what you mean

thanks
Fred
 
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Can you expand a bit, I'm not sure what you mean

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If you fly it without saying a word, you'll fail it.

You have to "teach", and explain everything you're doing, as if you were flying with an instrument student.
 
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Can you expand a bit, I'm not sure what you mean

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If you fly it without saying a word, you'll fail it.

You have to "teach", and explain everything you're doing, as if you were flying with an instrument student.

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Eatsleepfly said what I meant perfect... you need to talk... and you need to talk a lot! I know a lot of people go into the checkride knowing how to fly an approach from the right seat, but they do not know how to explain what they're doing. They fly the approaches perfectly... and they do it from the right seat... but they do not prove 'instructional knowledge' to the DPE. That's what the whole checkride is about... proving you can teach instruments!! Talk talk talk!! Explain everything thoroughly and fly the airplane with precision and you'll be fine!
 
The two most important things in instrument flight?

= The next two things.

My DE seemed to like this approach (ha!) to things. So at any given point, I would say, "What are the next two things we have to do or prepare for?" That kept me well ahead of the plane.

Good luck!!

Lostcomm
 
Alright I wasted all of your time. Took my CFII ride last week. All this preparation for a coupled approach, GPS approach, autopilot crap. All I end up doing is a VOR and ILS approach. Easiest checkride I ever had!!
Now, can someone explain how to track a radial?
 
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Alright I wasted all of your time. Took my CFII ride last week. All this preparation for a coupled approach, GPS approach, autopilot crap. All I end up doing is a VOR and ILS approach. Easiest checkride I ever had!!
Now, can someone explain how to track a radial?

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Congrats! Yeah, it really is a simple checkride. The CFII was one of those rare "relaxing" checkrides. I actually had fun on mine!

As for tracking a radial, I still dunno... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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Alright I wasted all of your time. Took my CFII ride last week. All this preparation for a coupled approach, GPS approach, autopilot crap. All I end up doing is a VOR and ILS approach. Easiest checkride I ever had!!
Now, can someone explain how to track a radial?

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Congrats! Yeah, it really is a simple checkride. The CFII was one of those rare "relaxing" checkrides. I actually had fun on mine!

As for tracking a radial, I still dunno... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Once I get my instrument knowledge back up to par, I plan on taking my CFII ride. It's sad what you forget when all you do is primary training for a year =(
 
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