CFII Add On

Sisson2011

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I am wondering who can give a CFII add on? I know that 61.195(h) list a tone of qualifications for an instructor to give flight instructing for "first-time flight instructor applicants", but are their requirements for add ons or can any instructor give an add on?

Thanks for the help

61.195(h)
(h) Qualifications of the flight instructor for training first-time flight instructor applicants. (1) The ground training provided to an initial applicant for a flight instructor certificate must be given by an authorized instructor who—
(i) Holds a current ground or flight instructor certificate with the appropriate rating, has held that certificate for at least 24 months, and has given at least 40 hours of ground training; or
(ii) Holds a current ground or flight instructor certificate with the appropriate rating, and has given at least 100 hours of ground training in an FAA-approved course.
(2) Except for an instructor who meets the requirements of paragraph (h)(3)(ii) of this section, a flight instructor who provides training to an initial applicant for a flight instructor certificate must—
(i) Meet the eligibility requirements prescribed in §61.183 of this part;
(ii) Hold the appropriate flight instructor certificate and rating;
(iii) Have held a flight instructor certificate for at least 24 months;
(iv) For training in preparation for an airplane, rotorcraft, or powered-lift rating, have given at least 200 hours of flight training as a flight instructor; and
(v) For training in preparation for a glider rating, have given at least 80 hours of flight training as a flight instructor.
(3) A flight instructor who serves as a flight instructor in an FAA-approved course for the issuance of a flight instructor rating must hold a current flight instructor certificate with the appropriate rating and pass the required initial and recurrent flight instructor proficiency tests, in accordance with the requirements of the part under which the FAA-approved course is conducted, and must—
(i) Meet the requirements of paragraph (h)(2) of this section; or
(ii) Have trained and endorsed at least five applicants for a practical test for a pilot certificate, flight instructor certificate, ground instructor certificate, or an additional rating, and at least 80 percent of those applicants passed that test on their first attempt; and
(A) Given at least 400 hours of flight training as a flight instructor for training in an airplane, a rotorcraft, or for a powered-lift rating; or
(B) Given at least 100 hours of flight training as a flight instructor, for training in a glider rating.
(i) Prohibition against self-endorsements. A flight instructor shall not make any self-endorsement for a certificate, rating, flight review, authorization, operating privilege, practical test, or knowledge test that is required by this part.
(j) Additional qualifications required to give training in Category II or Category III operations. A flight instructor may not give training in Category II or Category III operations unless the flight instructor has been trained and tested in Category II or Category III operations, pursuant to §61.67 or §61.68 of this part, as applicable.
 
Any CFII can sign you off for the II certificate. But I would check in the CFI Corner of the website for a more detailed explanation. I am a bit rusty on my CFI info/regs/guidelines.
 
If your CFII is your intial CFI rating then only a 2 year CFII can sign you off for the checkride. If it is an add on any CFII can sign you off.
 
If your CFII is your intial CFI rating then only a 2 year CFII can sign you off for the checkride. If it is an add on any CFII can sign you off.


Not to pick nits, but I thought you had to be a CFI to be a II? Hence the "Flight Instructor, Airplane Single Engine And Multi Engine; Instrument Airplane. I know you can get the II, but you are not allowed to teach yet, because you are not qualified in an airplane yet. Smack me upside the head if I am just that stupid please.
 


LOL! Mabey I should have been a little more clear, from my American Flyers days. They do the CFII as an initial, but you are not legal to teach in an airplane untill you get catagory and class along with the II. So, do I need to be smacked again? Because I think the fisrt one left a mark. :drool:
 
LOL! Mabey I should have been a little more clear, from my American Flyers days. They do the CFII as an initial, but you are not legal to teach in an airplane untill you get catagory and class along with the II. So, do I need to be smacked again? Because I think the fisrt one left a mark. :drool:

Correct me if I'm wrong (good possibility there), but if you have your CFII ,you can legally teach instrument students. There was a person in my II class that was only getting her II because her boss wanted to become instrument rated. She has no desire to get the CFI add-on. She's just getting it to teach instrument work.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong (good possibility there), but if you have your CFII ,you can legally teach instrument students. There was a person in my II class that was only getting her II because her boss wanted to become instrument rated. She has no desire to get the CFI add-on. She's just getting it to teach instrument work.

Not a bad idea if you are at a big flight school. Cause most of the instrument stuff is done in a simulator. So on crappy days, you can sit in a simulator and enjoy a nice cup of Joe.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong (good possibility there), but if you have your CFII ,you can legally teach instrument students. There was a person in my II class that was only getting her II because her boss wanted to become instrument rated. She has no desire to get the CFI add-on. She's just getting it to teach instrument work.

Hmm. Interesting. Never thought of it that way. But don't you have to have cat and class to provide instruction in an airplane? I'll have to look at the regs. Just seems kinda usless to have ASE and AME along with it.

Not a bad idea if you are at a big flight school. Cause most of the instrument stuff is done in a simulator. So on crappy days, you can sit in a simulator and enjoy a nice cup of Joe.

I still try in an airplane. But hot coffe and bumps make for lots of stained shirts, pants and (ahem, cough cough) jewels.

Edit: looked it up, what about 61.183 (j). More to come after Me the wife and kid eat dinner. Need more research.
 
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