CFI teaching ATP

Der_Meister

Der_Meister

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The title says it all. I will have my first ATP student (single engine) this next week. Any tips, tricks, things to look for from those who have thought ATP?
 
Flight is easy (Refer to PTS) but if I remember, I used to have them go do stall's, steep turn, slow flight under the hood. Then do a whole boatload of approaches in succession with high workload, all procedure turns, course reversal holds, missed approaches with the full procedures, right in succession. I also through in partial panel, can't remember if it's in the PTS, but it's just another distraction to pile on.

Oral is all regs and a real good idea of systems.

No sign off needed so no paperwork for you.
 
For a non-type rating ATP, theres really not much to teach! its more or less an instrument refresher and aircraft checkout rilled into one. Go through the PTS, make sure they can fly the plane and shoot some approaches and thats it. Pretty easy really. They don't even need an endorsement.
 
amjon said:
Do you not need an ATP to teach ATP?
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I dont believe there is any "training" requirement for the ATP, just "experience" requirements... so there's no instructor qualifications, or even any need to log dual specific to the ATP.
 
SIUav8er said:
For a non-type rating ATP, theres really not much to teach! its more or less an instrument refresher and aircraft checkout rilled into one. Go through the PTS, make sure they can fly the plane and shoot some approaches and thats it. Pretty easy really. They don't even need an endorsement.
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That's what I was thinking from looking at the PTS just wanted to make sure.
 
I skipped the Instructor process, I just rented a Cirrus and took the ATP single. I didnt even study for it. (the reason I did it was so my ATP written would not expire and I didnt have the money to do the Multi ATP)
 
The best thing you can do as the CFI is to speak to the examiner ahead of time for the shake-down on how the ride will go. But for god sakes, know the PTS before you call... It will really all depend on how instrument proficient the applicant is. The biggest emphasis on the flying part is maintaing chosen airspeeds. The examiner can ask... so what airspeed to you plan to fly this steep turn, hold, approach, etc... So, thorough knowledge of the airplane configurations and power settings is a must. Knowing the the AFM front and back, passenger briefings, checklist use, and being able to pick apart everything on an approach plate can't hurt either.
 
When I passed mine, we did 1 hold and vor approach,missed, some engine failure.

I was captain on 208, and got 4 h on duchess for the atp.faa told me I am ok, but I need more hours on duchess if I fly it commercially.

so he took my 135 experience in account and got the atp:)

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