CFI Hiring at FlightSafety

darbykidd

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I know that FlightSafety hires all their CFIs from their graduates but is there a waiting list to get hired? I was thinking about going there for my CFI training but not if I'd have to wait months to get hired on. Anyone here care to fill me in? Thanks.
 
I am in CFI ground now, and it has been confirmed by multiple, high up, sources that there is not effectively no list. They called every name on the list for the next Standardization class, and they couldn't get enough for the alternates. Therefore they asked two people who just interviewed to be alternates. (i.e. they didn't have to wait more than a week.)

So, I say go for it. It seems to be a great time to get your CFI.

Good luck,

Grayson

PS> They don't hire ALL their graduates. You must interview and pass the interview to work here. But if you study and know what you are talking about, you have a good shot. It is in no way automatic, however.
 
One word of caution. FSI holds itself to very high standards. If you haven't completed your multi or instrument training here the Sim evaluation can be extremely difficult. They expect everything to be done to PTS and using FSI procedures. If you aren't sharp in a Frasca 142 (touchy SOB) or familiar with the speeds, profiles, emergency procedures, ect. it is easy to get washed out of the CFI hiring process....
 
Just a word of advice, Flight Safety does NOT hire all their instructor graduates. I have seen a number of what I thought were quality pilots and instructors not get hired. So if you get hired by Flight Safety you've done something right. And don't ruffle any feathers when you are there as a student.
 
aviator said:
One word of caution. FSI holds itself to very high standards. If you haven't completed your multi or instrument training here the Sim evaluation can be extremely difficult. They expect everything to be done to PTS and using FSI procedures. If you aren't sharp in a Frasca 142 (touchy SOB) or familiar with the speeds, profiles, emergency procedures, ect. it is easy to get washed out of the CFI hiring process....
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Is this true?????


And if it is how would a CFI candidate who wishes to become hired over come this ??
 
ak25iou said:
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Is this true?????


And if it is how would a CFI candidate who wishes to become hired over come this ??


Good question, I would like to know as well seeing as how I'm starting CFI training with them this upcoming wednesday and have never used a Frasca because I did all my other training at Averett University. I am def. hoping to get hired.
 
Hey guys, don't sweat it.....I went there only to get my CFI, never touched a seminole or a frasca before the interview....they're looking for good instrument skills with some good habits....ie good situational awareness and no cowboy maneuvers. You are not required to know their procedures, speeds or anything like that....you're not even required to teach during the sim eval. You'll do your CFI training there, so you'll have a really good idea of the procedures (similar, but not the same between single and multi aircraft). They also give you free time in the frasca to practice before the eval. It isn't hard to go to the bookstore and get a copy of the seminole checklists, etc. if you really want to be on top of your game. If you're motivated and have decent skills, you'll be alright....
 
Thats sobering. I am seriously considering going there to wrap up my training because, honestly, i am not too happy with here i am now... I will be down on Tue/ Wed to do a tour of the campus and then will go from there, any advice or tips????
 
thats good to here. I just arrived at FSA tonight, and I haven't really talked to anybody so that question was still in the back of my mind haunting me.
 
What does the interview for CFI consist of, is there any tips on what to prepare for? Also will my instructor help me prepare for it??
 
Interview consists of a one-on-one interview with Mr. Wakefield and Mr. Skovgard. Typical interview questions and then a couple about flying. I got asked about overbanking tendency and something else.

Then you give a brief on one of the private pilot maneuvers to several of the instructors. They tell you 24hrs in advance what your topic will be and whether it's just "lecture" method or "guided discussion" method of teaching. After I got my topic I got with some of the other people and we practiced in front of each other. If you can, grab an instructor and present to them and get their input. Oh, there is also a 15min (or right around there) time limit. The big thing I found was they want you to very VERY specific when explaining the maneuver. Go into as much detail as possible. This is where I had some trouble with my interview. I'd say try and find someone that has just interviewed and pick their brain to get the latest info.

Their is a sim eval in the Frasca, but that is only for the internship and has no bearing on the CFI job.

They also look at your oral/flight score for your CFI checkride.

Hope this helps.
 
badco99 said:
Their is a sim eval in the Frasca, but that is only for the internship and has no bearing on the CFI job.

They also look at your oral/flight score for your CFI checkride.

Hope this helps.

Everything else you posted was correct.....however, no matter what they tell you, they value the Frasca just as much as the other two parts of the interview..........they could care less how you fly for the internship.......

the oral and flight score for your CFI checkride do not matter at all.....I got an 82 on my written and something like 80/80 on my CFI checkride...still got hired...I know of a bunch of other instructors in the same situation......

They're looking to make sure you'll be able to interact with their customers in a friendly and repsonsible manner, and that you can teach someone to fly a plane.......scores on some checkride are not a very good indicator of these two skills.....

their impression of you, your presentation (and application of FOI skills), and your flying skills are what get you the job......
 
Like you said, what they say and what they actually do could be two different things. They just started changing things this summer. Not sure if you are still here or not.

We were told that they actually grade each part of the interview (a 1-5 grade), and average them all together. If you got above a certain score you got the job, below, well, you were trying again. I even gave them a letter of recommendation from my instructor thinking it would help and was basically told it was pointless, which was real nice of them.

I think it's all hit or miss. They either like you or they don't.
 
Hello,
I have thought about going to FSI for my CFI training. I am currently a commercial ASEL pilot. I thik Flight Safety is a good quality school. HOw much does the CFI course cost?
 
When I did it late 2004 it was about $8000, wet rates might have gone up due to fuel prices since then though.



06Flyer said:
Hello,
I have thought about going to FSI for my CFI training. I am currently a commercial ASEL pilot. I thik Flight Safety is a good quality school. HOw much does the CFI course cost?
 
mpflies2 said:
Good question, I would like to know as well seeing as how I'm starting CFI training with them this upcoming wednesday and have never used a Frasca because I did all my other training at Averett University. I am def. hoping to get hired.


For those of you coming from the outside (CFI onward)......

When they give (sell) you the checklists, MEMORIZE EVERY procedure and maneuver in the checklist. The instrument procedures in the back are extremely important.

I used to draw the procedures and maneuvers on a dry erase board at home till I was blue in the face (a few beers helps the time pass). You can pick one up at the local Walmart for approx. $20.00.

Example: Lets say power off stalls has steps 1 through 10 listed. You should be able to write out the steps on the board for you instructor without hesitation.

As for the instrument procedures, same thing. You should be able to draw out the entire procedure in the checklist on the board (A/C path etc., draw the A/C flying from the IAF to the PT to the FAF etc. labeling the speeds/checks as you go)

Don't forget to MEMORIZE ALL of the emergency procedures and the lineup check through final check......

One more thing. When they give you the 8-9 page written exam for the aircraft, make sure you know everything about that aircraft. All of the answers are in the POH. Systems are huge with FSA...


QUIZ..... Anyone know how the propeller on the Pipers are built?


Good luck guys..

ILS
 
launchpad said:


Hartzell propellers are built on honor.... Says so right on the prop.

My instructor used to throw out funky questions like that once in awhile to keep things fun. Good instructor. I think he is with ACA now...

ILS
 
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