CFI expirations may be going away.
- Thread starter Maurus
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It's not quite that simple. With the FAA it never is...
Fail to meet the recency requirements or file the paperwork and you go back to a checkride being required. At least there is a 3-month grace period for renewal though
From the comments on the article:
'This proposal has a fatal flaw in it: quoting from the NPRM:
“While the flight instructor would not be applying to renew a certificate, the FAA finds it is necessary to maintain Forms 8710–1 and 8710–11 as the collection mechanism because it would allow the FAA to continue to track the number of flight instructors who are eligible to exercise the privileges of their flight instructor certificates in a manner that flight instructors are accustomed. Additionally, utilizing Forms 8710–1 and 8710–11 would allow the FAA to validate that the flight instructor does, in fact, satisfy the recent experience requirements. Should the FAA find that the flight instructor either does not sufficiently show a recent experience requirement has been met, or does not meet the recent experience requirements, the FAA would deny the applicant’s 8710–1, and direct the appropriate Flight Standards District Office (FSDO) to issue a Letter of Disapproval to the flight instructor.”
In other words: the FAA effectively cancels your certificate if you don’t submit the “renewal” paperwork. So the only real change is: the certificate no longer tells you by when you need to renew. How is that an improvement?'
Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
The only thing this proposal does is eliminate the certificate processing by the FAA.
You still have to submit an 8710.
If you’re not active, you still have to do a FIRC.
There is a tiny grace period before you have to take a reinstatement ride.
There were a couple of other tiny cutouts.
They stated one of the goals was to capture pilots who had let their CFIs expire. Had it gone to a system where you were “non current”, but then just took a FIRC to reinstate, it would have captured a lot more pilots. This is definitely not that.
You still have to submit an 8710.
If you’re not active, you still have to do a FIRC.
There is a tiny grace period before you have to take a reinstatement ride.
There were a couple of other tiny cutouts.
They stated one of the goals was to capture pilots who had let their CFIs expire. Had it gone to a system where you were “non current”, but then just took a FIRC to reinstate, it would have captured a lot more pilots. This is definitely not that.
Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
Assuming you meet the requirements, you can apply with the Feds. I did mine in person at the FSDO.
ahw01
Well-Known Member
But if your cert doesn't expire, would they issue you a new one?
Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
Yes.
DE727UPS
Well-Known Member
I don't think it's well defined other than the 5 signoffs with 4 passing as a way to renew. That's the closest one to the common definition of recency. That said, there are other ways to renew that the FAA is calling recency. One is an FIRC like doing Gleim. Another way is giving instruction at an FAA approved proficiency event. That's a new one. There was a FSDO guy out of Seattle back in the 90's that would sign you off for a renewal if you served as an instructor at a WINGS event and attended some of the workshops he put on. He was a great guy.
MidlifeFlyer
Well-Known Member
All they are doing is removing the need to get a new piece of plastic every two years. Endorsement rather than new certificate.
And adding other renewal paths.
