Cessna N564HV - WN2493 - San Diego 8/11/2023

[fholbert]

Date:	11-AUG-2023
Time:	19:06 UTC
Type:	Cessna 560XL Citation XLS+
Owner/operator:	Hy-Vee Inc.
Registration:	N564HV
MSN:	560-6211
Fatalities:	Fatalities: 0 / Occupants:
Other fatalities:	0
Aircraft damage:	None
Category:	Serious incident
Location:	San Diego International Airport, CA (SAN/KSAN) - United States of America
Phase:	Approach
Nature:	Unknown
Departure airport:	Des Moines International Airport, IA (DSM/KDSM)
Destination airport:	San Diego International Airport, CA (SAN/KSAN)
Confidence Rating:	Information is only available from news, social media or unofficial sources

Narrative:
A Cessna 560XL Citation XLS+ (N564HV) corporate jet and Southwest Airlines flight WN2493, a Boeing 737-700 (N7734H), were involved in a runway incursion incident at San Diego.
Preliminary information suggests that WN2493 was cleared to line up on runway 27 by San Diego Tower: "Southwest 24-93 Olympic Tower, traffic on five mile final and two five zero at one one, runway 27 line up and wait."
Two minutes later, with WN2493 still on the runway, N564HV radioed the Tower controller, asking if they were still cleared to land. The controller then issued instructions to N564HV to go around.
The Citation executed a go around, overflying the Boeing 737 by about 100 feet.

WN2493 subsequently departed normally and the Citation landed 14 minutes later.

 

[///AMG]

San Diego loves itself some WN. Push em back, line em up, send it. It's their world, the rest of us just live in it

 

[DE727UPS]

I don't know if it's an urban legend but I've heard a few times they send pizza to the tower cabs.

 

[SteveC]

It's a good thing that I despise the airline-versus-corporate nonsense, or I'd have to jump all over this one...

 

[CFI A&P]

With how tight it gets there, I’m surprised this even made the news. A busy, single runway class B, and the preferred runway has a parking garage in the way of a true stable approach… Go-arounds are pretty common with the spacing between arrivals and departures.

 

[MikeD]

A fun sporty one there is the LOC/DME-A into NZY next door, in the weather. Flying the LOC to 27 at SAN over the parking garage and all, then a visual left turn at MDA to land on RW 18 at NZY, or enter a south pattern for 29. Always a fun one to fly that keeps the skills up.

 

[guywhoflies]

It's a good thing that I despise the airline-versus-corporate nonsense, or I'd have to jump all over this one...

Based on the original post, it sounds more like an ATC screw up than anything the Southwest crew did.

 

[SteveC]

Based on the original post, it sounds more like an ATC screw up than anything the Southwest crew did.

? I read "line up and wait"?

 

[guywhoflies]

? I read "line up and wait"?

Maybe I misunderstood your original post. I thought you were blaming the Southwest crew.

 

[SteveC]

Maybe I misunderstood your original post. I thought you were blaming the Southwest crew.

I was, but now I see I read it wrong. I was thinking intersecting runways, and SW was rolling... Lack of comprehension on my part.

 

[ASpilot2be]

I think I read it wrong. I was thinking intersecting runways, and SW was rolling... Lack of comprehension on my part.

Not many intersecting runways in San Diego!

 

[MikeD]

Not many intersecting runways in San Diego!

Am old enough to remember when there was.

 

[Murdoughnut]

Never understood why a busy tower controller is giving amended clearances - feel like that should be sent back to clearance delivery.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0DkXRwfaoE