Cessna 340

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Pilotbob34

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Looking for opinions on the plane including range/weight carrying ability/speed/MX etc...

If you hate the plane, I am open to suggestions on similar aircraft, but have to be 325K or less, and pressurization is pretty much must with this owner.

Thanks
 
If you're looking at the 340, I would consider a 414.

414 is only 7-10 kts slower (real world speeds) and is much more comfortable.

I'm 5'11 and 165lbs, it was a tight fit in the cockpit with another pilot of similar size.

The 414 is going to cost roughly the same to operate and insure.

I fly a 414 RAM VI, we can carry myself + 3, 200lbs adults + 100lbs of bags and full fuel (1200lbs/200 gals) and have right at 100lbs of useful load left over. (Right at 2,200lbs useful load)

190-215 KTAS depending on altitude.

Mx is going to run probably $20-30,000/year (includes annual cost).
 
Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it.

I had considered the 414, but the prices I have seen seemed to put them above our range (at least the one the owner told me to look in for now).

For the prices I have seen the 414's, it seems we could get a mid time King air 90. How would the 414 compare to that?
 
Pilotbob34 said:
Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it.

I had considered the 414, but the prices I have seen seemed to put them above our range (at least the one the owner told me to look in for now).

For the prices I have seen the 414's, it seems we could get a mid time King air 90. How would the 414 compare to that?
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Are you looking at 414's or 414A's. There is a couple of key differences.

The 414 has tip tanks/aux tanks like a 310/340. Shorter nose and doesn't have the Wing Spar AD.

A very nice (tricked out) one can be had for less than $350,000.

The 414A has a different wing (it has a wet wing), it does have the Wing Spar AD, and has a longer nose.

Have a look at this aircraft for instance:

http://www.controller.com/listingsdetail/aircraft-for-sale/CESSNA-414-RAM/1977-CESSNA-414-RAM/1154719.htm

Or this one, it's the most expensive 414 RAM on the market right now...and I bet you could talk them down below $325,000.

http://www.controller.com/listingsdetail/aircraft-for-sale/CESSNA-414-RAM/1973-CESSNA-414-RAM/1170885.htm
 
Pilotbob34 said:
Thank you, I'll looking into those planes.

Is the only difference between the 414 and 414a the wet wing/AD?
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The 414A has the nose of a Cessna 421, meaning it has the longer nose (can carry more up there).

The A model has the same TSIO-520 Engines (335hp), unless it's an AW which has liquid cooled engines.

The A model has a hydraulic landing gear system, as opposed to the electric gear of a 414/340/310.

In this discussion, you can look up more info if you like...or if you have other ?'s, shoot me a PM.

http://forums.jetcareers.com/general-topics/110595-baron-58p.html
 
SurferLucas said:
Are you looking at 414's or 414A's. There is a couple of key differences.

The 414 has tip tanks/aux tanks like a 310/340. Shorter nose and doesn't have the Wing Spar AD.

A very nice (tricked out) one can be had for less than $350,000.

The 414A has a different wing (it has a wet wing), it does have the Wing Spar AD, and has a longer nose.

Have a look at this aircraft for instance:

http://www.controller.com/listingsd...ESSNA-414-RAM/1977-CESSNA-414-RAM/1154719.htm

Or this one, it's the most expensive 414 RAM on the market right now...and I bet you could talk them down below $325,000.

http://www.controller.com/listingsd...ESSNA-414-RAM/1973-CESSNA-414-RAM/1170885.htm
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Threads like this make me wish I had money to own something that awesome for my friends/family


sorry for the hijack, moving on!
 
elmetal said:
Threads like this make me wish I had money to own something that awesome for my friends/family


sorry for the hijack, moving on!
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You and me both...I love our company 414, and since I get to take the gf on trips with me, it's kinda like our own plane...

Twin Cessna's are great for family/small company planes.

I just can't believe the price on some of the more tricked out 421C/414A's...I can't imagine dropping $600,000+ on an airplane that is my age (27 years old).

This 421C makes me drool...

http://www.controller.com/listingsdetail/aircraft-for-sale/CESSNA-421C-RAM/1981-CESSNA-421C-RAM/1169091.htm
 
ryan1234 said:
Wow... that's probably the nicest 421 I've seen... little overboard for the airplane, but hey it's nice.

I didn't even know there was strakes for it

Makes ours seem like a dinosaur. We still have the Sperry Radar, and the Collins...and it still works good.
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We had one very similar here in North Georgia not too long ago...guy flew it over from Germany. He blew an engine out near the Grand Canyon about a month ago, but he had the composite 4-blade props.

I can't believe how much extra speed you can get with that STC...I wonder if it's available for the 414...
 
SurferLucas said:
You and me both...I love our company 414, and since I get to take the gf on trips with me, it's kinda like our own plane...

Twin Cessna's are great for family/small company planes.

I just can't believe the price on some of the more tricked out 421C/414A's...I can't imagine dropping $600,000+ on an airplane that is my age (27 years old).

This 421C makes me drool...

http://www.controller.com/listingsdetail/aircraft-for-sale/CESSNA-421C-RAM/1981-CESSNA-421C-RAM/1169091.htm
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They paid for some excellent photography to make that look good!
 
SurferLucas said:
You and me both...I love our company 414, and since I get to take the gf on trips with me, it's kinda like our own plane...

Twin Cessna's are great for family/small company planes.

I just can't believe the price on some of the more tricked out 421C/414A's...I can't imagine dropping $600,000+ on an airplane that is my age (27 years old).

This 421C makes me drool...

http://www.controller.com/listingsd...SNA-421C-RAM/1981-CESSNA-421C-RAM/1169091.htm
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Holy 421C, Batman! What a sweet looking bird. I LOVE the after-market props with the red tips!
 
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