CAT III ILS Landing

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MFT1Air

Mfalme Soleimani
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I was reading on another thread about right seaters experiencing their first CAT II landings. Didn't know what it was, so you know I had to do the research.

Got introduced to CAT IIs and subsequently CAT III. Had no clue until I saw it visually. I'd probably be scared witless if I had to actually fly one. . .as a passenger or crew member.

Kudos for a job well done.

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I was wondering the same thing myself. I am oh so impressed with the skills of the crews that actually fly to these types of minimums under the ugliest of weather conditions. It's one thing to be looking out of a passenger window, but to now think of what the pilot is looking at through the windshield is intimidating at best. . .downright scary being my normal feeling most would have.
 
not a ton of skill involved, most of it is flown with autopilot, the rest is procedures on who is doing what and watching what and initiating the missed etc


ive never actually flown what but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night
 
Sorry, but the video listed the weather at 150 rvr... umm... did that not seem like 150 rvr to anyone else? Looked like a lot more to me.

Besides, hand flying to 1800 rvr is where it's at. ;)
 
Ian J said:
Sorry, but the video listed the weather at 150 rvr... umm... did that not seem like 150 rvr to anyone else? Looked like a lot more to me.

Besides, hand flying to 1800 rvr is where it's at. ;)
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Thanks for that Ian.
I'll give them 2400RVR but I wasn't there so I won't say they were wrong.....but it wasn't <150RVR.
 
mikecweb said:
Thanks for that Ian.
I'll give them 2400RVR but I wasn't there so I won't say they were wrong.....but it wasn't <150RVR.
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Looks like at least 1000RVR to me. When they flew over the Threshold lights, you can make out the 1000 foot markers a bit. No 150RVR though.
 
Maybe MDPilot can help me, but I seem to remember being in the JS for an incredibly scary landing in the 141, in which we never really saw the runway until we hit it.....pretty damn hard too. The part I don't remember is if the 141 was CAT3 or not. It did have an AWLS. Is that the same thing?
 
coa787 said:
Check out this ILS landing. Here's your 150RVR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uigpqpDWIwE
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Whoa! Yep, that's even scarier than mine video.

Again, for this uneducated aviator with regards to instrument flying. . . what exactly is RVR again? I think I'm familiar, but I don't truly know.

Also, excuse my naiveness here, but is it easier to land this at night vice day given it's easier to see the lights at night or perhaps could peripheral lights cloud/confuse sighting the runway?
 
I got you all beat... this is a cat IIIc, all done via ap (land 3 = all 3 autopilots are armed)

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In the 757/767, you can do approaches so low that you never even see the approach lights.
 
Those are the types of approaches that I look forward to doing one day. Scary, maybe at first I would assume. However, once you are comfortable in the situation, that would be one great feeling of accomplishment!
 
taseal said:
I got you all beat... this is a cat IIIc, all done via ap (land 3 = all 3 autopilots are armed)

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:D
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You've got to be crazy! Yep, one landing like that for me in the right seat and I'd quit. . . right after I cleaned my shorts!!!
 
you don't even land it.. the plane does you

talk about 'rely on your instruements'

more like, rely on your autopilot :D
 
If anyone's still reading this.... I'd like to hear a real airline pilot tell me how likely it may be that "hand flown" landings (or take-offs for that matter) will become a thing of the past. How well do autopilots deal with things like strong cross-winds, for instance. Not trying to turn this into a "pilotless airplane" argument or anything, but just wondering how close computers are to becoming better overall operators of aircraft than humans.

Seems to me like pilots will end up becoming more and more of flight techs than actual pilots who really get to do anything that resembles flying.

thoughts?
 
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