CASS and Cargo

nyk

nyk

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Is there a website that lists cargo companies that allow their dispatchers to be in CASS? Or does such things not exist?
 
That's more for the pilots though right? I'm asking if there is anything that says dispatchers are allowed per the company. Or is this something you just have to ask during the interview. What am looking for is a list that if let's say I want to work at Skylease. Do they allow their dispatchers in CASS. Make sense now what I'm looking for?
 
nyk said:
That's more for the pilots though right? I'm asking if there is anything that says dispatchers are allowed per the company. Or is this something you just have to ask during the interview. What am looking for is a list that if let's say I want to work at Skylease. Do they allow their dispatchers in CASS. Make sense now what I'm looking for?
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CASS is CASS. Pilots and licensed dispatchers are qualified to be in the CASS program. It's just a matter of what airlines participate in CASS. Make sense?
 
Yes thanks for the clarification. I always thought that even though we are in the same system some companies might allow their pilots but not dispatchers in the program.
 
To simplify further - if you are a licensed dispatcher and you work for an airline that participates in CASS, you as an employed dispatcher of said airline will be in the CASS system and be authorized to use jumpseat privileges.
 
womanpilot73 said:
To simplify further - if you are a licensed dispatcher and you work for an airline that participates in CASS, you as an employed dispatcher of said airline will be in the CASS system and be authorized to use jumpseat privileges.
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Not always. We just got CASS at our airline, but the POI determined that dispatchers were not to be included.
 
Kev said:
Not always. We just got CASS at our airline, but the POI determined that dispatchers were not to be included.
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Seriously? Why is that? I know why we can't be in CASS at our shop, but why yours?
 
nyk said:
Yes thanks for the clarification. I always thought that even though we are in the same system some companies might allow their pilots but not dispatchers in the program.
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I guess this holds true for a few supplementals out there...
 
I have called both Fedex and UPS and they let Dx sign up however others might be less willing. Usually you can contact their ops office and ask for jumpseat sign-up person and tell them your a dispatcher then you'll know. Always take a copy of the JS agreement with you for whatever airline as I had to use it the other day with Delta. Good luck
 
TN-DX said:
Bogus man! I applied over there recently too
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It has to do with the fact that currently supplementals aren't required to hire "dispatchers". So at some supplemental carriers, dispatchers are hired as "flight followers". Flight followers are not considered "crew members" and so cannot be in CASS. This was the explanation my boss just gave me.
 
I wont lie... when I took my first gig as a "dispatcher" for a 135 cargo operation, I was surprised we had the privilege of being in CASS. Just depends on your company, everyone is different
 
Micky007 said:
I have called both Fedex and UPS and they let Dx sign up however others might be less willing. Usually you can contact their ops office and ask for jumpseat sign-up person and tell them your a dispatcher then you'll know. Always take a copy of the JS agreement with you for whatever airline as I had to use it the other day with Delta. Good luck
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FedEx will let you Jumpseat, just not in the cockpit. Courier area only, and not allowed on the 777 or 767 since there is no cockpit door.
 
PlaneFan82 said:
FedEx will let you Jumpseat, just not in the cockpit. Courier area only, and not allowed on the 777 or 767 since there is no cockpit door.
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That doesn't make any sense. If I can ride in the cockpit of an airplane with pax why not one without?
 
womanpilot73 said:
It has to do with the fact that currently supplementals aren't required to hire "dispatchers". So at some supplemental carriers, dispatchers are hired as "flight followers". Flight followers are not considered "crew members" and so cannot be in CASS. This was the explanation my boss just gave me.
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That's weird, and I think it's kind of a bit of BS. My last job was a supplemental carrier, but we ran to full 121 flag standards, and the dispatchers were (still are) included in CASS. I also think the whole "flight following" idea is crap, and if you do a flight plan and something goes wrong, I KNOW the FAA will come for your certificate even though the responsibility reverts to the DO. A bit of double standard I think on their part. I hope this rule gets changed soon.

PlaneFan82 said:
FedEx will let you Jumpseat, just not in the cockpit. Courier area only, and not allowed on the 777 or 767 since there is no cockpit door.
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What's up with that? Doesn't the 'C' in CASS stand for 'Cockpit'? Is this a FedEx pilot thing? Does that also extend to OAL pilots? Would it help if I brought cookies like the old days? UPS considers the entire courier area as "cockpit" and we'll take OAL dispatchers that are CASS and have agreements (which is pretty much everyone I think).
 
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