Canada's only Univerity Flight Program.

S.T.Aviator

S.T.Aviator

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This is a link to Canada's only University Prof. Flight Program.
It is subsidized by the Canadian Govt. and costs $40,000. This
includes your 4 year Degree as well as all the flight training in 172's, Bonanza's, Barons, brand new Frasca sims and CRJ level D sim.
I am considering this program if I don't get my Greencard soon(my parents are U.S. residents). The degree is almost like an engineering degree, with the completion of a thesis required in 4th year.
Check it out and tell me if you think it's worth going through all that
work to get a degree. If I come to the U.S. I will be attending AriBen and completing by BS through ERAU online.(More expensive but a hec of a lot easier)...


http://aviation.senecac.on.ca/
http://www.senecac.on.ca/fulltime/FPR.html
http://aviation.senecac.on.ca/
 
chris said:
There are several aviation-related University programs here in Canada. Here is a link to the program from which I graduated: http://www.ssc.uwo.ca/deansoffice/acs/aviation/
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Hey Chris, where you from? I'm out in sauga.
Chris I know about Western and BCIT's program , but they seem to incorporate
a business or management type of degree. Seneca's is the only truly
technical degree. I did not realize how serious the program was until
I took a look at the detailed course outline.
I have also heard that a large group of Seneca students end up at AirCanada.

Cheers
 
ST,

Im from London, ON, currently up north in Thompson, MB.

Seneca has a good reputation, but outside of aviation, the degree from there is probably not as good as one from a "real" university, like Western. UWO has a good reputation for business, and many of our classmates have ended up at good jobs outside of flying.

There are probably several Seneca grads at Air Canada, but there's probably just as many from the other schools. Obviously noone gets hired directly to a major airline- it takes a long time to build up your experience.

I would highly recommend the UWO program; however, if you're not interested in business, then it's not likely a good fit for you. The degree itself will have far more value than one from a college like Seneca, but Seneca does have a good reputation and a strong history in the industry.
 
Should also have mentionned... the 4 year program at Seneca is NOT subsidized!! It is very expensive, just like Western's program.
 
I actually spoke to admissions and was told it was subsidized.
It works out to $2900 a semester which comes in a little under
$40,000 with TC fees and misc. items. Most 4 yr degrees cost
about $20,000 these days so the rest is flight costs.
When the program was the 3 yr diploma it was fully subsidized. All you
paid was the regular college tuition. I figure $20,000 for flight fees
is not bad considering the equipment, Bonanza's, Barons, CRJ sim.
Brampton charges close to $50,000 for the integrated comm license.
 
Hey guys,
I'am also a Canadian citizen, and currently live in Mississauga, I went through most of the Universities/colleges/schools here in canada. I really liked the program at Seneca and actually know someone who is doing the program right now. As from him what he says is that the program is really tough and competetive. The only reason I dont want to go is because it concentrated specifally on the Pilot path, and I wanted something to fall back on. I liked the UWO program because after graduation I can chose 2 paths either management or Pilot but the cost was really high. Have you guys visited these schools in Canada?
http://www.saultc.on.ca/Aviation/
http://www.saultc.on.ca/Programs/AviationFlight.htm
http://coastalpacific.com/cpa/cpaprog.html

 
Hey Night Hawker. It's nice to have another Canadian come out of the woodwork:rawk:

The Sault College program is a nice program as well but the only drawback is that you end up with a diploma, not a degree.
The Coastal Pacific program is not bad but not subsidized by the govt.
like Seneca, Sault, and Confederation.
Confederation College has a 2-1/2 yr diploma bush pilot program, done on land
as well as float and ski equiped aircraft.

http://www.confederationc.on.ca/flight-mgmt/calendar/default.asp
 
Hey S.T Aviator,
Yeh its nice to see fellow Canadian on JC:rawk: , when I first came here I thought I would be the only Canadian, but I was wrong. Anyways, I went through the Confederation program, and someone told that they just got some state of the art equipment. Did you know that Seneca has a Professional Pilot Fast track program? Only thing is I believe its a diploma.
http://www.senecac.on.ca/parttime/pip-aviation.html
 
The fast track program is more like a certificate. You have to pay for all the flight training yourself. I looked on the website you posted and it looks like it's gonna come out to around $50,000, Dam!!That's almost as much as Bramptons Integrated program.
I think Centennial's would be a better choice since you would be getting Priv,Comm, MIFR for $35,000. That includes like 33 ME time as well as all fees and checkrides.
Since you are an Ontario resident ,you would be better off applying to one of the three subsidized programs, Seneca, Sault, Confed or go down to the States on a 2 yr J1 visa and spend $40,000 at AriBen. You could get al your ratings and walk away with a s--t load of multi time.
Now you have the opportunity to apply globaly for a job.

Just my $00.02
Good Luck
Keep us posted
 
Hey S.T Aviator,
Yeh my plan right now is to apply for the 2 year J-1 visa and go down to Ari-ben, I thought that this would be the best decision. I find that there is much less opportunity in Canada for a RJ Fo job, than compared to the States, and the minimums in the states are much lesser. Another reason why I decided to go Ari-ben is because of the multi-engine. Where have you decided to go or thinking of going?
 
I'm thinking the same thing as yourself. My parents are U.S. residents so
I am supposed to be recieving my greencard sometime this year. If I don't
get it by Sept I figure I'll either go down to Ari on the J1 or maybe do the Seneca program. Have not decide 100% yet.
Do you have a greencard? You will need it once the visa expires to stay down there and work?
If not you can get a job in lots of other places including the Caribean. The FAA license is much more recognized than the Canadian one, even though ours is harder to get.
I think AriBen gives you the best bang for the buck, but you must be a self starter and highly motivated from what I have gathered.
 
No I dont have a greencard yet, I'am a Canadian citizen, I just have relatives in the states. I never knew you needed a greencard to work in the states? Can't you work with an employment visa? Well how long does it take to get the greencard? I heard they are going through applications from 1999 now.
 
You could work with an employment visa but getting an employer to sponsor you is the hard part. No one wants to go through the trouble after 9/11.
In order to be sponsored by family, I believe it has to be direct family like parents or siblings. It has taken me 9 yrs to finally get the paperwork.
I will be happy if I can get my greencard before the end of the year.
Do you have any flying experience here in Canada?
I still believe getting the ratings in the States is much better because of the versatility of the FAA license.
There are a bunch of schools that will issue you a J1 visa and allow you to train and then work as an instructor to build time. I would recomend going to a school that would allow you to build a lot of ME time. This makes you a lot more globaly marketable.
 
No actually I dont have any flying experience in terms of training and liscences, but I have been flying before. I plan perhaps to get a recreational liscense this summer down at Brampton flying center its only around $4,000, but that would be all for Canada, I plan to go from private to comm, Instructor etc in the states on a J-1 visa.
 
I would just do it all in the States if you can. Airspace is a bit different and it would be easier to follow their rules and regs from the beginning.
Don't waste your time with the recreational license, might as well put in a little more time and money and get the private from the beginning.
If you are gonna do your initial training in the GTA, I would go with Spectrum Airways in Burlington. I did some flying there and loved it.
Cheaper than Brampton, no membership fee, and not as busy.
A word of advice, get your groundschool done first. Will save you a lot of money in the long run and remember for every hour up in the air you need to be hitting the books for 1-3 hrs. Fly as much as you can, at least 3 times a week so you retain your skills instead of re-learning every time you go up. Pick up Microsoft flight sim and the CH Products yoke and pedals. They can be had on www.ebay.ca for pretty cheap. It's a great way to practice procedures and get used to the practice area as well as your cross country routes.

Two great sites to check out schools in T.O.
www.aviation.ca
www.avcanada.ca
 
chris said:
Should also have mentionned... the 4 year program at Seneca is NOT subsidized!! It is very expensive, just like Western's program.
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I think ur comment is BIAS. I'm currently in High School and applied to Seneca's flight program. And indeed is subsidized by the goverment, not like Western (another program that i was considering) which is $100 000 for students who will pay for residence and living at the school. My guidance at the school personally called the officer of the registrar at Seneca to make some questions about the program. After sitting with my guidance he actually recommend me to go for Seneca b/c:

It is less expensive,( b/c it is subsidized by the goverment of Ontario)
It is also the best aviation school across Canada (best reputation)
There's one kind of rating (sry forgot the name) which at Western they don't give you.
The bachelor degree is as good as any bachelor in University... (BAChelor in Applied Technology). As an example i can give you my physics teacher who worked for Bombardier Aerospace and have exactly the same degree offered at Seneca.
You'll have the opportunity of get hired much faster than any other pilot student across canada, while being in the college.

Anyways just my two cents... but remember if Seneca wouldn't be subsidized by the goverment I weren't apply to them.

P.S It is a Highly Competitive program.
 
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