Best way to get 30 hours of night

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NJaviator

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Hello all,

Long story short I was a CFI at PNE in Philly and now am almost done a contract for a survey company. I have all my hours for the ATP besides my night. I really am trying to avoid buying this time as I don't have the funds at the moment. Wondering what my best options overall would be and what your guys opinions are. I would prefer to work in the Philly or Chicago area but open for anything. Thanks in advance.
 
NJaviator said:
Hello all,

Long story short I was a CFI at PNE in Philly and now am almost done a contract for a survey company. I have all my hours for the ATP besides my night. I really am trying to avoid buying this time as I don't have the funds at the moment. Wondering what my best options overall would be and what your guys opinions are. I would prefer to work in the Philly or Chicago area but open for anything. Thanks in advance.
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Cargo does a ton of night right? maybe Ameriflight or one of those cargo carriers?
 
Mike Wise said:
Cargo does a ton of night right? maybe Ameriflight or one of those cargo carriers?
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If he's anything like me, he probably isn't looking to go through AMF interview/hiring/training/OE/etc just to get thirty hours of night. ;>

I have the same problem in almost the same quantity. It's a conundrum.

-Fox
 
I know places like Westwind in PHX do subcontract work for AMF - maybe find out who they use locally?

Otherwise, negotiate a block rate on a C-152 - 5 hours a night can be done in a week for $2-3k
 
At the risk of being "Capt. Obvious". Those of you working on night experience are keeping this in mind?

(b) A person who has performed at least 20 night takeoffs and landings to a full stop may substitute each additional night takeoff and landing to a full stop for 1 hour of night flight time to satisfy the requirements of paragraph (a)(2) of this section; however, not more than 25 hours of night flight time may be credited in this manner.
 
web265 said:
At the risk of being "Capt. Obvious". Those of you working on night experience are keeping this in mind?

(b) A person who has performed at least 20 night takeoffs and landings to a full stop may substitute each additional night takeoff and landing to a full stop for 1 hour of night flight time to satisfy the requirements of paragraph (a)(2) of this section; however, not more than 25 hours of night flight time may be credited in this manner.
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That reg saved me a lot of headache. As far as I know you can't use the same one for 135 IFR mins though, which is kind of strange to me.
 
OK, I thought they were working toward their ATP mins which is where that is located in the FARS, I see acrofox mentioned using this already in another thread..
 
web265 said:
OK, I thought they were working toward their ATP mins which is where that is located in the FARS, I see acrofox mentioned using this already in another thread..
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Yeah ... I'll probably hit 135 IFR mins next week or the week after... except for that 50 hours of night. With 72 night landings, I should hit ATP mins in about four months... minus 20 hours of night. 20 hours I can buy if I absolutely have to... 50, not so much.

The reduction in hours for landings makes perfect sense—same as the rules for reducing IOE—so I don't really understand why there's no similar exception for 135 IFR mins. But for me, it makes a decision (135 versus 121) that much easier.

-Fox
 
Thanks for all the help. Ya I just don't see it being really worth it getting on with another job just so I can get 30 hours of night for 121 mins. That will just push my seniority back that much more
 
Find someone who needs night time, find a 150 and spilt and spend 1000-1500 like @ahw01 said. Maybe post on the time building section in here.
 
Worst comes to worst, Find the cheapest 152 and split time. In my past time building experience, there was a 152 for $69/hr wet. Split between a buddy = $34.50 X 30 hours = $1,035!
 
I could probably fly with you a few nights. I have access to a 172N g430w for 40/hr dry based at TTN. I'm working at PNE now. Send me a PM if you're interested
 
I got a lot of my night hours flying wintertime in Alaska. The rest I attained during instructing. I may be mistaken, but I don't believe that survey jobs will accrue too much night time for you unless you are repositioning your airplane.
 
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