ATP Written and ATP Certificate

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David

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I know that to get your ATP Certificate you need the ATP Written. I know the ATP Written expires after 2 years I believe. So if you get your ATP certificate before the written expires, do you have to keep retaking the ATP written after it expires?


What is mean t when a company says " ATP Certificate required with Asymmetric Thrust"
 
David said:
I know that to get your ATP Certificate you need the ATP Written. I know the ATP Written expires after 2 years I believe. So if you get your ATP certificate before the written expires, do you have to keep retaking the ATP written after it expires?
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No, it's just like any other pilot certificate in that you need to have taken the written within the 24 calendar months preceding your practical test (check ride) but once you've passed your practical test you now have that certificate for life (well, unless you surrender it or the FAA takes it away from you) there is no continued testing required other than your typical flight review and currency requirements.
 
Doesn't the date if the written freeze when you get hired at a 121? Although I think some are giving type rides even for FO's.
 
rframe said:
No, it's just like any other pilot certificate in that you need to have taken the written within the 24 calendar months preceding your practical test (check ride) but once you've passed your practical test you now have that certificate for life (well, unless you surrender it or the FAA takes it away from you) there is no continued testing required other than your typical flight review and currency requirements.
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what is meant when a company says "ATP Certificate required with Asymmetric Thrust"
 
David said:
what is meant when a company says "ATP Certificate required with Asymmetric Thrust"
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It means they want an ATP Multi-Engine Land certificate which is not restricted to center-line thrust. Many military multi-engine trainer and fighter jets are considered center-line thrust, so this usually affects them.

On the civilian side, if for some reason all you ever flew was a Cessna 337 you could theoretically get your AMEL in it and also be restricted to center-line thrust.

Asynchronous thrust basically means the motors are far enough apart that if one fails, the resulting yawing moment is going to be a significant consideration for the remainder of that flight.

Curious as to the motivation behind your questions, since anybody qualifying for positions that would require this would already know what it means... are you a student pilot looking to the future, reading job boards?
 
rframe said:
It means they want an ATP Multi-Engine Land certificate which is not restricted to center-line thrust. Many military multi-engine trainer and fighter jets are considered center-line thrust, so this usually affects them.

On the civilian side, if for some reason all you ever flew was a Cessna 337 you could theoretically get your AMEL in it and also be restricted to center-line thrust.

Asynchronous thrust basically means the motors are far enough apart that if one fails, the resulting yawing moment is going to be a significant consideration for the remainder of that flight.

Curious as to the motivation behind your questions, since anybody qualifying for positions that would require this would already know what it means... are you a student pilot looking to the future, reading job boards?
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Yes I am just researching. Only 16 will be going to aviation college so I can get all the ratings by age 23.
 
rframe said:
It means they want an ATP Multi-Engine Land certificate which is not restricted to center-line thrust. Many military multi-engine trainer and fighter jets are considered center-line thrust, so this usually affects them.

On the civilian side, if for some reason all you ever flew was a Cessna 337 you could theoretically get your AMEL in it and also be restricted to center-line thrust.

Asynchronous thrust basically means the motors are far enough apart that if one fails, the resulting yawing moment is going to be a significant consideration for the remainder of that flight.

Curious as to the motivation behind your questions, since anybody qualifying for positions that would require this would already know what it means... are you a student pilot looking to the future, reading job boards?
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you beat me to it

rframe is bringing his A-game today gents
 
David said:
Yes I am just researching. Only 16 will be going to aviation college so I can get all the ratings by age 23.
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Cool, there's a lot of good insider information to be found on this forum so spend a lot of time reading old threads and you'll find a lot of information on different flight school and university programs too if you decide to go that route. Warning: you will read a lot of negativity too, but pay attention, a LOT of people go into aviation with rose colored glasses and dreams of flying jets and then get hit with the hard cold reality of what the industry is and then they leave it bitter and frustrated after investing $70,000-100,000+ and several years of their life into something they finally realize was a fantasy and the real world of aviation is not what they wanted. This is not to discourage you but rather to encourage you to get a realistic picture of what the industry looks like and what your job path will realistically involve, so then you can go forward having fun and enjoying the journey.
 
rframe said:
Cool, there's a lot of good insider information to be found on this forum so spend a lot of time reading old threads and you'll find a lot of information on different flight school and university programs too if you decide to go that route. Warning: you will read a lot of negativity too, but pay attention, a LOT of people go into aviation with rose colored glasses and dreams of flying jets and then get hit with the hard cold reality of what the industry is and then they leave it bitter and frustrated after investing $70,000-100,000+ and several years of their life into something they finally realize was a fantasy and the real world of aviation is not what they wanted. This is not to discourage you but rather to encourage you to get a realistic picture of what the industry looks like and what your job path will realistically involve, so then you can go forward having fun and enjoying the journey.
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Yeah, I have heard all the things you mentioned and believe me, I am going into this knowing that it's not even easy to get to the regionals now with the new ATP Requirement and the low pay in the regional industry.
 
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