ATC at Fault in Pan Am Seminole Crash

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No such thing as a good GOP president.

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Yeah, Republican party is so evil. They freed the slaves, gave blacks and women the right to vote, and enacted equal protection.
 
Here I was thinking those articles were proposed by Congress and ratified by the states. But hey, if the Republican party did all that, we should all be grateful indeed.
 
Actually, wasn't it Lyndon Johnson who rammed the civil rights acts through Congress?
 
Definately not Abe Lincoln. Worst president in history in my opinion...

I blame this crash on him not ATC...
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Definately not Abe Lincoln. Worst president in history in my opinion...

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Where did you study history? Did you have a high incidence of lead in you water growing up? Without Lincoln we would not be the United States. He was a man of moral conviction who we can thank for guiding the country through it's biggest crisis and freeing the slaves. If you get a chance to put down the comic book for a minute, look up and read the Gettysburg Address.
 
It never ceases to amaze me how you clowns can turn almost any discussion into a political pissing match. Give it a rest.
 
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Definately not Abe Lincoln. Worst president in history in my opinion...

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Where did you study history? Did you have a high incidence of lead in you water growing up? Without Lincoln we would not be the United States. He was a man of moral conviction who we can thank for guiding the country through it's biggest crisis and freeing the slaves. If you get a chance to put down the comic book for a minute, look up and read the Gettysburg Address.

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IMO, the smiley face icon makes me think shooter is being sarcastic.....
 
Actually I wasn't being sarcastic but I thought the smiley would prevent this from turning into a debate about Lincoln.
Sooner, I will PM you regarding why I feel the way I do. We can keep this out of the thread.
 
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No such thing as a good GOP president.

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Yeah, Republican party is so evil. They freed the slaves, gave blacks and women the right to vote, and enacted equal protection.

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Well I do have alot of repect for Abraham Lincoln but I have heard he or his family owned slaves.

Also remember that the civil war wasn't faught to free slaves.

We (black people) were only freed as an after thought his main goal was keeping the union intact.

And when I made my orginal comment was talking more about recent times most notably Nixon to our current administration.

But anyways...back to Pan Am cause think this thead is in danger of getting locked or flushed.
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Also remember that the civil war wasn't faught to free slaves.

We (black people) were only freed as an after thought his main goal was keeping the union intact.


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Well since the handle is stuck...

Please excuse the continued thread creep, but I disagree with the idea that the civil war had nothing to do with slavery. The start of the war can be attributed to a mixture of causes including Northern and Southern regional conflicts, economic trends, and yes, humanitarian concerns for the welfare of enslaved people. Not all wars are fought for a single objective, and this is another example.
 
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I don't know why, but I sure am enjoying the JC Fight Night tonight! Where's that popcorn smiley??


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The handle is slowly coming down...........get your last knocks in.
 
Speaking of toilets not working, I hate the infrared toilets. The process to get a courtesy flush requires a bit much, or so I've been told.
 
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Well I do have alot of repect for Abraham Lincoln but I have heard he or his family owned slaves.

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Um, do the even teach history anymore in school??? I learned in first grade that Lincon was born in a log cabin in KY. He taught himself to read and became a laywer. Doesn't sound like the son of a rich plantation owener to me. Lincon or his family NEVER owned slaves.

Do you know what the Emancipation Proclamation is?

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Also remember that the civil war wasn't faught to free slaves.

We (black people) were only freed as an after thought his main goal was keeping the union intact.

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Yeah, no kidding? And why did the union split in the first place? The argument over slavery was the PRIMARY reason the North and South were not getting along so well.

Yeah, Nixon was worthless, every party has one from time to time. I don't recall Carter being that effective either.
 
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