ASRS question

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I had some severe engine roughness yesterday, which reduced to a slight sensation of unsteadiness and what felt like a slight loss of power shortly thereafter. I opted to climb and divert to an airport over flat terrain, so I called up approach and made a pan-pan call to get through bravo, with the intent of staying high until I was runway assured, just in case. I called pan-pan on advisory above the traffic pattern (uncontrolled airport—KHAF), and people cleared out for me. I made an uneventful landing and was able to taxi to the ramp with seemingly normal engine response on the ground.

My question for you is this—should I file an ASRS report if I don't perceive any "corrective action"? I'm planning to do so, but I just wanted a bit of a cross-check.

~Fox
(NB. I did leave the airplane there for the mechanics to look at. I realize that many pilots might consider all of this bit of an overreaction to engine roughness that mostly went away... and so on one hand I feel a bit sheepish. On the other hand, however, if this happened a hundred times, and I performed the same action and maintained engine power to a normal landing a hundred times, I would do the same thing on the hundred-first. If that makes me overcautious, so be it)
 
The "get through bravo" reference is throwing me a little here.

A ) Was it that you used pan-pan to get priority for your communication to a controller to get a bravo clearance?

Or

B) Was it "pan=pan" bugsmasher-123 is coming through the bravo with a rough engine!"

if A. ) IMHO. You never declared an emergency, as I understand using pan-pan simply declares that you have a message with an elevated level of urgency. If you are comfortable that there was no actual deviation or airspace violation, my vote would be no.

if B. ) Then......maybe.....depending on the communications with the controller.
 
web265 said:
The "get through bravo" reference is throwing me a little here.

A ) Was it that you used pan-pan to get priority for your communication to a controller to get a bravo clearance?
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Yeah. I wanted to perk his ears a bit, alert him to the possibility that I had a condition that might deteriorate, and that I would prefer to hear "cleared through class Bravo" instead of "remain outside of class bravo". I was at 5,200' a couple miles south of a 4,000' shelf of SFO class B.

if A. ) IMHO. You never declared an emergency, as I understand using pan-pan simply declares that you have a message with an elevated level of urgency. If you are comfortable that there was no actual deviation or airspace violation, my vote would be no.
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This is "common sense", to me, and I don't disagree... but there's also the 'CYA just in case' mentality.

-Fox
 
Remember, the ASRS (as well as company ASAP programs) primary purpose is to gather information about safety of flight hazards and allow other people to learn from them. The get out of jail free cards are just an incentive to get people to volunteer more information.
 
Roger Roger said:
Remember, the ASRS (as well as company ASAP programs) primary purpose is to gather information about safety of flight hazards and allow other people to learn from them. The get out of jail free cards are just an incentive to get people to volunteer more information.
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I understand and agree. To me, it seemed like this was simply an example of everything working as it should, which is why I wanted thoughts on the issue. I didn't get priority over other traffic from Norcal, as far as I know, although I did take priority in the traffic pattern. I didn't officially declare an emergency, and while I didn't formally deviate from any regulations, my traffic pattern could certainly be looked at as "non-standard", in some way.

I dunno. I've been encouraged to file an ASRS report by a few friends as a 'CYA'.

-Fox
 
Acrofox said:
I understand and agree. To me, it seemed like this was simply an example of everything working as it should, which is why I wanted thoughts on the issue. I didn't get priority over other traffic from Norcal, as far as I know, although I did take priority in the traffic pattern. I didn't officially declare an emergency, and while I didn't formally deviate from any regulations, my traffic pattern could certainly be looked at as "non-standard", in some way.

I dunno. I've been encouraged to file an ASRS report by a few friends as a 'CYA'.

-Fox
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I guess from a perspective of being involved in an ASAP program, I'd say if you think anyone can learn from your story go ahead and file.
 
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