Asking for help.

derg

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Tonight, I spoke with a friend who faced a deeply personal loss during his first year at a major airline. On top of that, a standards event didn’t go well, and he soon found himself unemployed, unsure of his next steps. It was a crushing conversation, but not untenable.

He’ll be fine—I’m connecting him with excellent resources and introducing him to my longtime mentor, who has an incredible track record of helping people rebuild their careers.

What’s the takeaway? If you’re dealing with personal loss or challenges, talk to your friends. We’re often terrible at evaluating ourselves objectively, and self-diagnosis can lead to bad decisions. Reach out to friends and mentors—they may offer insights or resources you hadn’t considered. Hop on Zoom on a Saturday night; I don’t know anyone in our circle who wouldn’t lend an ear. Whatever you do, don’t isolate yourself. There are few “new” things in the human condition and someone has gone through and made it out the other side of whatever your challenges are.

I lost my father during my first year at SouthernJets, but I was fortunate to have people looking out for me. The LAX chief pilot at the time told me, “Here’s a ticket, go home, take as much time as you need. Don’t worry about SouthernJets. Let me know if you need anything.” That support made all the difference. In fact, he went to bat for me, as Regional Director, when Comair tried to have me fired and a few other potentially career-altering events and encouraged me NOT to walk away from Jetcareers. This is Captain Levis on the right during a trip to Toulouse, France about 3 years ago.

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If you’re struggling and don’t know where to turn, message me. I’ll give you my number, and we’ll talk. At the very least, you’ll have me. I may also have—or know of—resources that could help. And please know this: You are NEVER bothering me, especially when your message starts with “I need help.” Even if you’re in the “I THINK I **might** need help”, reach out to your friends and colleagues, or JC, or me.
 
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Tonight, I spoke with a friend who faced a deeply personal loss during his first year at a major airline. On top of that, a standards event didn’t go well, and he soon found himself unemployed, unsure of his next steps. It was a crushing conversation, but not untenable.

He’ll be fine—I’m connecting him with excellent resources and introducing him to my longtime mentor, who has an incredible track record of helping people rebuild their careers.

What’s the takeaway? If you’re dealing with personal loss or challenges, talk to your friends. We’re often terrible at evaluating ourselves objectively, and self-diagnosis can lead to bad decisions. Reach out to friends and mentors—they may offer insights or resources you hadn’t considered. Hop on Zoom on a Saturday night; I don’t know anyone in our circle who wouldn’t lend an ear. Whatever you do, don’t isolate yourself. There are few “new” things in the human condition and someone has gone through and made it out the other side of whatever your challenges are.

I lost my father during my first year at SouthernJets, but I was fortunate to have people looking out for me. The LAX chief pilot at the time told me, “Here’s a ticket, go home, take as much time as you need. Don’t worry about SouthernJets. Let me know if you need anything.” That support made all the difference. In fact, he went to bat for me, as Regional Director, when Comair tried to have me fired and a few other potentially career-altering events and encouraged me NOT to walk away from Jetcareers. This is Captain Levis on the right during a trip to Toulouse, France.

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If you’re struggling and don’t know where to turn, message me. I’ll give you my number, and we’ll talk. At the very least, you’ll have me. I may also have—or know of—resources that could help. And please know this: You are NEVER bothering me, especially when your message starts with “I need help.” Even if you’re in the “I THINK I **might** need help”, reach out to your friends and colleagues, or JC, or me.

I don’t have anywhere near the experience base nor resources that you do, but if I can ever be of assistance to anyone I’ll do my best.

Absolute bottom line of why I still hang around this place.
 
I don’t have anywhere near the experience base nor resources that you do, but if I can ever be of assistance to anyone I’ll do my best.

Absolute bottom line of why I still hang around this place.

Yes you do. You have two ears, a brain and life experience.
 
Tonight, I spoke with a friend who faced a deeply personal loss during his first year at a major airline. On top of that, a standards event didn’t go well, and he soon found himself unemployed, unsure of his next steps. It was a crushing conversation, but not untenable.

He’ll be fine—I’m connecting him with excellent resources and introducing him to my longtime mentor, who has an incredible track record of helping people rebuild their careers.

What’s the takeaway? If you’re dealing with personal loss or challenges, talk to your friends. We’re often terrible at evaluating ourselves objectively, and self-diagnosis can lead to bad decisions. Reach out to friends and mentors—they may offer insights or resources you hadn’t considered. Hop on Zoom on a Saturday night; I don’t know anyone in our circle who wouldn’t lend an ear. Whatever you do, don’t isolate yourself. There are few “new” things in the human condition and someone has gone through and made it out the other side of whatever your challenges are.

I lost my father during my first year at SouthernJets, but I was fortunate to have people looking out for me. The LAX chief pilot at the time told me, “Here’s a ticket, go home, take as much time as you need. Don’t worry about SouthernJets. Let me know if you need anything.” That support made all the difference. In fact, he went to bat for me, as Regional Director, when Comair tried to have me fired and a few other potentially career-altering events and encouraged me NOT to walk away from Jetcareers. This is Captain Levis on the right during a trip to Toulouse, France.

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If you’re struggling and don’t know where to turn, message me. I’ll give you my number, and we’ll talk. At the very least, you’ll have me. I may also have—or know of—resources that could help. And please know this: You are NEVER bothering me, especially when your message starts with “I need help.” Even if you’re in the “I THINK I **might** need help”, reach out to your friends and colleagues, or JC, or me.

When it comes time for interviews, if he needs some help with his answers, I’d be happy to lend a hand. That goes for anyone on here.

I’ve screwed up plenty of things in my past and still got to where I wanted to be. For all those that think this mistake is the end, it probably isn’t. Reach out to the community, we will pull our resources, and try to get you back in the game.
 
Don’t sell yourself short. Besides being a prime example of what not to do, you’re a damn good example of how not to do it.

:rolleyes:
Truth. I figure that no matter how bad someone has screwed the pooch, in my 55 years I bet I can tell them a personal story that will make them feel better about themselves.
 
I’ve gone through a few… speed bumps to say. I’m all ears for this individual, you have my digits. Feel free to send them their way.

You’re absolutely correct about speaking up to your company when your personal life goes awry. This job requires focus, most of us it becomes second nature but throw in a death or divorce and it gets pretty hard to compartmentalize if you’re legitimately grieving.

This persons number one goal every day is to wake up and remember that yesterday already happened. Ruminating on why or how, will do them no good from this point on. A good morning routine in bringing the mind back to present sets a solid foundation for building small blocks back to their career.
 
I’ve gone through a few… speed bumps to say. I’m all ears for this individual, you have my digits. Feel free to send them their way.

You’re absolutely correct about speaking up to your company when your personal life goes awry. This job requires focus, most of us it becomes second nature but throw in a death or divorce and it gets pretty hard to compartmentalize if you’re legitimately grieving.

This persons number one goal every day is to wake up and remember that yesterday already happened. Ruminating on why or how, will do them no good from this point on. A good morning routine in bringing the mind back to present sets a solid foundation for building small blocks back to their career.

And I’m proud to have been there during a couple to talk it out. :)
 
And I’m proud to have been there during a couple to talk it out. :)

I’m grateful for that, the only way I can ever come close to paying that back is to offer my hand when another person needs it.

Paying it forward is what this website and SOME of those on here understand well. Your friend has abundant resources for help they don’t even realize yet…
 
This just kind of feels appropriate per the thread.


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Well, kinda!

In the last year, I’ve been involved with at least five people who reached out for help AFTER the point I could have turned the situation around. I’m not a wizard or anything but after a few decades in the business, a lot of my friends and colleagues have moved into helpful situations. Problems with flight training? I have some people in the training department that I can call on, Flight Standards? Welll, I’m in Flight Standards. Chief Pilots office? Name me the base and I can get you some “Chief pilot hat-off, helping a friend hat-on” assistance. FAA? I have some good buddies at various Certificate Management Offices that I can count on.

It’s this thing called… Networking. But you have to raise your hand and say “I need help”, “I really effed up” or “I’m in a bad spot”.

Use the hive-mind.
 
I can't even begin to say how much i appreciate this @derg. As someone who has being going through some stuff the offer to reach out and talk to you and others is greatly appreciated.

Any time.

I don’t think I’ve run into a situation where I thought “I’m glad they didn’t reach out” or “it’s good they didn’t talk about their demons” or “that stoicism in pretending everything was alright REALLY worked out well for them”. :)

Life is messy, hard, confusing then when you team that up with the pride, performance expectations and complexity of being a pilot, we REALLY need to look out for one another.
 
My two cents.

Even some of the biggest • in aviation management have faced tragedy and loss. Some of those • can get it right when it matters even if they are pretty • on a daily basis. Few of us have lost all of our humanity. Don’t shy away from asking for what you need, people will surprise you.

Among my friends and acquaintances, I’m hey, are you okay guy. Every once in awhile, I catch somebody that needs an ear. You don’t have to a best buddy to help.

I’ve had a nice aviation career, mostly diplomatic, VIP, govt/mil contract flying. I regret not pursuing 121. Fear of failing paralyzed me.

The greatest thing this site offers new and inexperienced pilots is a mature perspective on failures and setbacks.
 
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