Any Missionary Pilots, or Friends of Missionary Pilots?

Man RVS is CRAZY these days... regularly 7 planes on each side of the pattern. I've ran .7 on the hobbs just waiting to take off!

But I'm in Arizona now, for the past month. Better cash to pay for A&P school.

Are you in Spain with the Air Force?
 
jwp_145 said:
Man RVS is CRAZY these days... regularly 7 planes on each side of the pattern. I've ran .7 on the hobbs just waiting to take off!

But I'm in Arizona now, for the past month. Better cash to pay for A&P school.

Are you in Spain with the Air Force?
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I was in Spain in the Navy half a lifetime ago. My home, family and bidness are in Spain. I had been coming back for reserve duty in conus, and got on flying for a regional. The fam should be joining me at the end of the school year here in the states.
 
Good to hear. Welcome back stateside. I feel a bit 'tarded, as it took me a minute to figure out what "conus" meant. haha
 
jwp_145 said:
Man RVS is CRAZY these days... regularly 7 planes on each side of the pattern. I've ran .7 on the hobbs just waiting to take off!

But I'm in Arizona now, for the past month. Better cash to pay for A&P school.

Are you in Spain with the Air Force?
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Just curious who you are flying with out of KRVS and if your still doing it? Also, why don't you attend Spartan for their A&P program? The mechanic school really is very good and they seem to have a high pass rate coming out of that side of everything.

.7 to wait to take off? Come on now..........tell the truth. :p The most I've ever racked up waiting to take off was .5 and that was with nine planes in line ahead of me back when we had Chinese everywhere. Although, today while I was on final after coming back from OKC, some guy was giving the tower lady crap about how long he had been sitting there waiting to take off. When I was about 1/2 a mile out he decided to inquire about why he wasn't cleared to take off. Then he gave her some more crap and I keyed up and politely said that he couldn't leave because I didn't want to land on top of him. Right about that moment I went from left to right in front of him and nothing else was heard on the radio!! Some people..............:banghead:
 
slushie said:
I have been distantly considering the same idea. MAF sent me a book on Nate Saint, and it is incredible.
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Which book was it? Incredible story, incredible life he led. His son Steve seems to be following in his footsteps. There are a lot of books out and a movie about the passing of Nate Saint and the other missionaries.
 
Stomp16 said:
Just curious who you are flying with out of KRVS and if your still doing it? Also, why don't you attend Spartan for their A&P program? The mechanic school really is very good and they seem to have a high pass rate coming out of that side of everything.

.7 to wait to take off? Come on now..........tell the truth. :p The most I've ever racked up waiting to take off was .5 and that was with nine planes in line ahead of me back when we had Chinese everywhere.
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To answer the first question:
BECAUSE IT IS SPARTAN AND IT COSTS $30,000+ to attend the A&P school!!!!!
Tulsa Technology center is MUCH more modern, has MUCH better facilities and costs $6,000!!!!!

I was flying for Riverside Flight Center, but just moved out to Arizona because I just wasn't making the money I needed there. I loved all of the people there, but I just wasn't making ends meet.

As for the .7 Why would I lie about that? We were taking off on 1L. Not that I SAT there for .7. From engine start, taxi, run-up, and then waiting in line. The line went from that angled hold-short line all the way past the tower. We had just as many Indians there as you guys had Chinese.

And don't think I'm baggin' on Spartan. Some of my closest friends on this planet are Black Cats. It is just widely known that you can get the same for much less at many other places. Spartan=ERAU, UND, etc...
 
I was accepted into MAF about 10 years ago. I didn't go. It was one of the most difficult decisions in my life- get married, or go off to the mission field. I've got a beautiful wife and three kids to show for that decision. It's a noble cause and I have some good friends with MAF right now, a couple are in Indonesia and a couple in Africa.

For me, it was my passion all through high school and college. I got a degree from LeTourneau University with all my pilot ratings and A&P. A couple years after graduation and I had the 500 hours they require. I did their 2-week evaluation only to fail the maintenance portion. It was a tough, but fun two weeks. They teach you how to fly the 206 their way and see how well you adapt to their techniques. There were a couple written tests, POH, General Knowledge type stuff. They even had sim portion in an ATC-810. There maintenance projects: overhaul a magneto, time the points, and install on an engine. . . a sheet metal project, mmm. . . can't remember it all right now. Together with the technical evals, there were interviews with various members of the staff. A session about fund raising, a period with a psychologist. They really want a proficient pilot, a competent mechanic, someone who knows what The Great Commission is, and can handle the years away from friends and family in a foreign country.

My wife and I watched "End of the Spear" a couple weeks ago- wow, what a story! "Beyond the Gates of Splendor" is the documentary with interviews with the wives of the martyrs and Nate Saint's son. Good videos, both!
 
Cheechako said:
I was accepted into MAF about 10 years ago. I didn't go. It was one of the most difficult decisions in my life- get married, or go off to the mission field. I've got a beautiful wife and three kids to show for that decision. It's a noble cause and I have some good friends with MAF right now, a couple are in Indonesia and a couple in Africa.

For me, it was my passion all through high school and college. I got a degree from LeTourneau University with all my pilot ratings and A&P. A couple years after graduation and I had the 500 hours they require. I did their 2-week evaluation only to fail the maintenance portion. It was a tough, but fun two weeks. They teach you how to fly the 206 their way and see how well you adapt to their techniques. There were a couple written tests, POH, General Knowledge type stuff. They even had sim portion in an ATC-810. There maintenance projects: overhaul a magneto, time the points, and install on an engine. . . a sheet metal project, mmm. . . can't remember it all right now. Together with the technical evals, there were interviews with various members of the staff. A session about fund raising, a period with a psychologist. They really want a proficient pilot, a competent mechanic, someone who knows what The Great Commission is, and can handle the years away from friends and family in a foreign country.

My wife and I watched "End of the Spear" a couple weeks ago- wow, what a story! "Beyond the Gates of Splendor" is the documentary with interviews with the wives of the martyrs and Nate Saint's son. Good videos, both!
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what a story.
 
Ortini159 said:
Which book was it? Incredible story, incredible life he led. His son Steve seems to be following in his footsteps. There are a lot of books out and a movie about the passing of Nate Saint and the other missionaries.
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It is "Jungle Pilot"

I have looked over the site and watched the DVD...everything. I have some reservations. Like...I don't want to be a mechanic, they want a lifetime pilot, I hate bugs, etc. :)

But that can all change in an instant if you know what I mean (Prov. 21:1-2).
 
sdfcvoh said:
Does that involve the mile-high club? Oh, different kind of position entirely. Sorry!
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OMG, thank you, thank you...I have been avoiding this thread like the plague, because of the title.

I knew that if I looked at it I like you couldn't have resisted.

I finally succumbed, ready to post comment only to find out that you had already beaten me to the punch.

Thank you.

Besides, it's funnier since you did it, everyone would have expected me too!

:laff:
 
Thanks Max, another class act. Your post count lets me know that your opinion is valid. Thanks for your helpful comment.



And Chechacko, that was a very helpful bit of insight. Gives me a good idea of what to look forward to. Very practical reply. Thank you sir, and I'll take that to heart.
 
http://members.aol.com/flya3/

This is the biggest database of Missionary programs/schools/etc I´ve found so far online..
Hope It helps!
And Congrats on your plans! and Good luck. Here where I live (Mexico).. 30nm South of Monterrey, MX (MMMY) We have a Christian Private Hospital. That works hand in hand with ¨¨ Montemorelos University´¨- And we are in plans of establishing a Missionar Air evac (Helicopters).. Service for the area. Wich means we would pick up anybody regardless of their $$$ Status or Insurance coverage... For those of you who ask .. so how in the world are you guys gonna pay for the helo and related expences.?? Dont worry.. God will provide:).. It has been done in the past. And it will happen again soon (God willing). There are private and gov agencies willing to support the program as well as deals with hospitals in the area that would be recieving the patients..
So we´ll see how it goes :)
 
slushie said:
It is "Jungle Pilot"

I have looked over the site and watched the DVD...everything. I have some reservations. Like...I don't want to be a mechanic, they want a lifetime pilot, I hate bugs, etc. :)

But that can all change in an instant if you know what I mean (Prov. 21:1-2).
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Very good book! There is also "Shadows of the Almighty", "Throught Gates of Splendor", and Elizabeth Elliot has wrote numerous other books.

I have some of the same concerns as far as time commitment goes, but you never know whats in store!

Roger Youderian was/is my Grandfathers Brother-in Law. Aunt Barbara is an absolutely amazing woman. One of the sweetest on the planet!

Missionary work is definately a calling!
 
jwp_145 said:
To answer the first question:
BECAUSE IT IS SPARTAN AND IT COSTS $30,000+ to attend the A&P school!!!!!
Tulsa Technology center is MUCH more modern, has MUCH better facilities and costs $6,000!!!!!

I was flying for Riverside Flight Center, but just moved out to Arizona because I just wasn't making the money I needed there. I loved all of the people there, but I just wasn't making ends meet.

As for the .7 Why would I lie about that? We were taking off on 1L. Not that I SAT there for .7. From engine start, taxi, run-up, and then waiting in line. The line went from that angled hold-short line all the way past the tower. We had just as many Indians there as you guys had Chinese.

And don't think I'm baggin' on Spartan. Some of my closest friends on this planet are Black Cats. It is just widely known that you can get the same for much less at many other places. Spartan=ERAU, UND, etc...
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Sorry about that. I think my post came off the wrong way. I thought you attended Spartan and graduated. I thought their A&P program was A LOT cheaper if you were a graduate from the flight side. The Bachelor program is offered to me at 90% off as long as I maintain all A's. That's a hell of a deal if you ask me.

In regards to the .7, I forgot the :sarcasm: tag. I can definitely see that happening now that they are not letting people taxi into position and hold. My point was it has gotten crazy at times since that rule went into effect. That's definitely a lot of time and MONEY to waste on the ground. Been there, done that.

How was RFC while you were there? I have a friend moving back from Arizona to work there. He was told he could get anywhere from $32-40K a year instructing. What are your thoughts about the place?
 
I liked RFC. The owners are great people, and the school is a pilot factory.

They allow the position and hold again. I was in the tower a few months ago and asked them about it... now they have to tell you when someone is holding in position if you are cleared to land.

I don't know about $32-40K... that is REALLY dependent on the weather. I moved out here because I wasn't making enough.
 
I tried posting the video straight here but it wouldnt work.
here is the link!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYknTbglgOU

For those of you who dont have an idea of what ¨¨MISSION AVIATION¨¨ its about, this video will give you a preatty good idea of whats all involved, Its really nice and Toching. I myself had the oportunity of going down to B. Guyana and flying in one of those Planes in the video for GAMMAS (Guyana Medical Missionary Aviation Service). Now in partnership with Gospel Ministries International.
You can find more videos like that and related stuff at GMI´s Resources webpage

http://gospelministry.org/blog/?page_id=74
:)
 
oh and just to clarify, Missionary pilots do not only Fly 172, 150´s, and Aircrafts that size. IT all depends on where and what organization you fly for. In asia and the philipines many organizations use Turbine aircraft (C208), Even King 200´s, Twin Otters, Islanders, Down in FL they use DC-3´s For trips to DR and Haiti. and Helicopters too. Hey there even is a DC-10 Flying around the world! (Orbis Flying Hospital) helping out in developed areas. So... who said missionary aviation was boring? :). O and also.. The term ¨Missionary¨ doesnt mean you are poor either. Its true, you wont become wealthy doing that kind of flying, but I have really seen many Missionary pilots with a better income (Gods blessings) than that of a First year F/O at many of those regional airlines around, hand having a whole lot of more fun flying than those who just simply fly to get paid fore.
Dont get me wrong, of course there are exceptions in all cases and Im not saying Airline F/O´s are miserable, but please bear with me as I try to get my point across :).
This is flying with a purpose, The amount of everyday experiences, the people you would get to know and the fact that you know you are helping people that otherwise woulnd have access to X serivice its far more gratifying than working as 1st year F/O in a regional.
(This is only my personal point of view, and not intended to offend anyobdy. This doesnt mean that I wouldnt fly for the airlines. Of course I would. Its a totally diferent type of flying, motives, QOL etc. But you do get my point.. Hopefully :)
 
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