Another Citation CJ4 crash...

dustoff17

dustoff17

Still trying to reach the Top Shelf
Lucky he walked away from this one.....

http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2017/01/cessna-525c-citation-cj4-zeliff.html

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Amazing how it appears the wing box, and both wings were torn completely off, I'd say that saved his life, for the integral fuel tanks in each wing burned behind the resting place of the flipped fuselage.
 
correct, that is a photo of "Pete Zeliff, .. known as a successful business leader in Genesee County (NY) and beyond, a generous donor of his time and resources — including his various aircraft — and an ace in the sky.
The 60-year-old from Batavia walked away from a crash early Monday in mid-Michigan. His family, authorities there and even Good Samaritans who stopped to pull him from the wreckage say he’s lucky to be alive.."
 
Bear said:
Amazing how it appears the wing box, and both wings were torn completely off, I'd say that saved his life, for the integral fuel tanks in each wing burned behind the resting place of the flipped fuselage.
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The wings/center tank are all one piece. Held to the fuselage by four bolts and a handful of small panel screws. That's one way to keep the fire away from the occupants!
 
dustoff17 said:
The wings/center tank are all one piece. Held to the fuselage by four bolts and a handful of small panel screws. That's one way to keep the fire away from the occupants!
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Like wise of the phenom. There has been at least two of those wrecked where the entire wing came out from under it.
 
I can't imagine what it would feel like to walk away from your aircraft like that.
 
dustoff17 said:
The wings/center tank are all one piece. Held to the fuselage by four bolts and a handful of small panel screws. That's one way to keep the fire away from the occupants!
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education on the CJ4 http://cessna.txtav.com/~/media/Files/citation/cj4/cj4sd.ashx
"The Citation CJ4 utilizes an advanced, moderately swept wing selected for its low aerodynamic drag and favorable approach and landing characteristics. The wing structure is a three spar design with a shallow drop in the center section to permit attachment of the fuselage without interruption of the cabin cross-section. Integral fuel tanks are located in each wing. Control surfaces on the wing include outboard ailerons, wide span hinged fl aps, spoilers and speed brake panels. The righthand aileron incorporates a trim tab. The wing leading edges are anti-iced using engine bleed air. Fairings blend the wing and fuselage for minimum drag. The landing lights consist of industry proven OSRAM LED technology and are integrated with a Pulselight system which are mounted below the fuselage in the fairing. The wing tips include LED position and anticollision lights and static wicks."
 

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People in the comments section stating that the CJ4 needs at least 10,000' of runway to land safely :aghast:
 
FOLLOW-UP REPORT: ' "I thought when I got to hospital I felt pretty good," Zeliff said. "I didn’t think I had any of the injuries I have. I thought I would be checked out, they would sign me off and send me home."
He suffered a fractured spine in two places, two broken ribs, and a cracked sternum. His doctors told him he's got about 10 weeks of recovery ahead of him, but then he should be fine with no lasting issues."
 
Magnificent airplanes, but they REALLY don't like runway contamination. Clean & dry runway, you can roll it on nice and stop under 3000' no sweat. Wet and I don't like anything shorter than about 4500'. Snow/ice, etc and the book numbers go up exponentially to where you might as well just let it roll to a stop on it's own. Interestingly, the penalty for inop ground spoilers is something like a 0.03 factored landing distance (in the CJ3 at least). They don't help as much as you'd think.
 
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