And the standby instruments are......?

Below the four big screens are two little screens (next to the gear handle), the one on the left (with the little dial) looks like a Meggitt... It is an all in one, battery powered standby instrument...
 
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This is a nice office but what happens when the juice runs out?

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Just like with the old standby instruments they run on batteries.

I have flown both setups. If you are using big screens and revert to a couple of tiny analog instruments it is very challenging to say the least. Not only are they tiny, but usually the format is completely different, round dials instead of tapes for instance.

The better setup is to throw a basic display up on the screen. No map or goodies but at least you don't have to look 45 degrees to the right and the instrument hasn't shrunk from 12" across to 3" across.

One of the big issues of glass cockpits IMO is loss of basic instrument scan and skills.
 
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One of the big issues of glass cockpits IMO is loss of basic instrument scan and skills.

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I think that the scan would still be there, just an altered method of interpretation. I don't know...if it's the way of the future, what would be the best way to transition folks?
 
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One of the big issues of glass cockpits IMO is loss of basic instrument scan and skills.

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I think that the scan would still be there, just an altered method of interpretation. I don't know...if it's the way of the future, what would be the best way to transition folks?

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Yeah, I agree. I guess the other issue is lots of automated flying. Here is the issue that some sim instructors have told me about:

You take a wide body international pilot (very little hand flying) then you throw them a total electrical failure, putting them on little standby intruments and having to hand fly an approach. They say the result is often very ugly. Which begs the question. If basic instrument skills are your last back-up and these skills aren't maintained, what back-up do you have? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
At least once per rotation, I'll put the nav display into 'rose' (just a basic HSI), and turn off the flight director on a visual approach.

It freaks a lot of captains out, but if it's VMC/clear-and-a-million, it keeps my skills semi-fresh.
 
Batteries work well. I've also heard that some of the majors (names with held) in the name of saving money are investing in hamsters and wheels. Just throw the switch, and you've got unlimited power.

Ethan
 
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They say the result is often very ugly. Which begs the question. If basic instrument skills are your last back-up and these skills aren't maintained, what back-up do you have?

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All the more reason to take that extra flight in a 172 to keep your scan and skills going. Not saying the two are remotely similar in flying dynamics (that's a thread for airliners.net), but it would help with the back up instruments.
 
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They say the result is often very ugly. Which begs the question. If basic instrument skills are your last back-up and these skills aren't maintained, what back-up do you have?

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All the more reason to take that extra flight in a 172 to keep your scan and skills going. Not saying the two are remotely similar in flying dynamics (that's a thread for airliners.net), but it would help with the back up instruments.

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Another solution might be to spend some time in a non-motion sim just flying your airplane on standby instruments.
 
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