Allegiant hiring

Talk about horrible... training is poor, software is poor, aircraft are poor... It's just not a great place to work. period.
 
Seems to be a theme. For every gig there's someone here to talk about what a hellhole it is. Look, every place has its quirks, and some are definitely better then others, but at the end of the day, it's up to you to determine whether you want to have a good experience at work. Quite honestly, you can make the best place in the world a miserable experience if you've predetermined that is how it's going to be.
 
It's a very challenging place to work. I won't speak negatively, but its very different than other airlines. There are some good things like hardly any flights on Tuesday, Wednesday and Saturdays if there are any at all. They are creative in how the solve issues, but that challenge can make it interesting. However, week after week of those kinds of challenges can get old.

They make money, though. That is a kind of comfort knowing that you work for a shop that has no issues keeping the lights on.
 
It's called having connections and knowing people...not hiding in one's basement playing video games. Their software is light years behind everyone else and their aircraft have no gps, no acars, etc. I have heard nightmare stories about the training and just working there overall. It's not going to be for everyone that's for sure... they practically run the airline on an excel spreadsheet. Not somewhere id want to work. Look at the many (and I stress many) aircraft issues they have. Look up Maurice Gallagher, same guy who co-owned ValuJet which was based on the same premise. Buy old airplanes and fly them around and try to make money. We all know how that turned out.
 
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And Northwest before them. Valuejet was doing okay until someone decided it would be a good idea to throw a bunch of oxygen generators in a box and toss them in the hold.
 
CPZ9900 said:
Talk about horrible... training is poor, software is poor, aircraft are poor... It's just not a great place to work. period.
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CPZ9900 said:
It's called having connections and knowing people...not hiding in one's basement playing video games. Their software is light years behind everyone else and their aircraft have no gps, no acars, etc. I have heard nightmare stories about the training and just working there overall. It's not going to be for everyone that's for sure... they practically run the airline on an excel spreadsheet. Not somewhere id want to work. Look at the many (and I stress many) aircraft issues they have. Look up Maurice Gallagher, same guy who co-owned ValuJet which was based on the same premise. Buy old airplanes and fly them around and try to make money. We all know how that turned out.
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I wouldn't call Allegiant exactly "horrible" place to work, in fact I do enjoy working there. I will admit, it has it days when working the desk but I promise you that there isn't one dispatcher here that hasn't had their butt handed to them but our workload compared to a regional is quite low. Each desk may have up to 45 flight a day between 2 shifts but remember Allegiant runs around 200-300 flight on busy days during peak day which are Sunday, Monday, Thursday and Friday.....30 to 150 flights a day on non peak days which are Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday. These numbers are subject to change depending on the season.

Software isn't exactly poor....it's a slowly working process to get systems intergraded as we grow. I would find it hard to believe that there is a dispatch office that has a system that has never crashed. Our system isn't perfect but it is useable and easy to use. My only complaint would be to put us on a different and faster network than the rest of HDQ.

Our aircraft are not poor but old...but last time I checked, Allegiant is not the only airline that flys the MD80....Delta and American also fly them. We do have our share of mechanical issues but we are also smaller....we operate 80 planes: MD80, 757 and the A319/329. We do have ACARS on the Airbus...rumor has it that the 757 maybe getting it. We do have GPS on most of our aircraft.

The airline runs on a spreadsheet.....yeah, account for most airlines do.

Yes, it is challenging, it is different than most airlines with issues and growing pains....we are making money and just had our 45th profitable quarter.
 
Does KW still work out there.
What is starting pay and what
does it top out at. Also do you have
zed fares with Delta and others
 
Hondo Calrissian said:
We do have ACARS on the Airbus...rumor has it that the 757 maybe getting it. We do have GPS on most of our aircraft.
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ACARS is very nice to have...that being said, a lot of the planes I work have VHF-only ACARS which doesn't work when doing flights to Hawaii or in the Caribbean....and I work at one of the big boys. It sounds like ALGT has definitely improved things over the years, hopefully it's a trend that will continue. Good luck to all who apply! Vegas is a fun place to live, I enjoyed my time there.
 
While I understand we are all trying to be positive and paint a rosy picture for new dispatchers, not always the case.... a little dose of reality won't hurt every now and then. Allegiant certainly isn't for everyone. If you have dreams of travelling the world and working for a top-notch outfit, Allegiant isn't it. You're better off getting into a regional and learning the ropes of a network carrier. Do they make money? Sure.. A lot of it? No. They have a lot of problems be it labor, customer satisfaction, and equipment/mechanical issues. If you're from the area its probably a good deal for you. Certainly wouldn't pack up and move shop for it.
 
CPZ9900 said:
While I understand we are all trying to be positive and paint a rosy picture for new dispatchers, not always the case.... a little dose of reality won't hurt every now and then. Allegiant certainly isn't for everyone. If you have dreams of travelling the world and working for a top-notch outfit, Allegiant isn't it. You're better off getting into a regional and learning the ropes of a network carrier. Do they make money? Sure.. A lot of it? No. They have a lot of problems be it labor, customer satisfaction, and equipment/mechanical issues. If you're from the area its probably a good deal for you. Certainly wouldn't pack up and move shop for it.
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I am guessing you work at an airline that has zero labor problems, no customer service issues and equipment/mechanical issues......if that is the case, I want to work there!

Looks, every airline has it share of issues....as I have stated before....we are not Delta, United or American. We have 80 planes and because of that, it may seem more magnified because of it. As for the Labor issues, the pilots, flight attendants and dispatchers have unionized with talks underway for all groups.

Sure, you can go to a regional and get experience there but as an assistant dispatcher with Allegiant, fresh out of dispatch school, you will be dispatching: MD80s, A319/320s and B757s and after you gain experience, you will get check out on ETOPS....You can beat that for your first dispatching gig!! But if traveling and seeing the world vs getting heavy jet experience is more important then by all means, go to a regional. We do have agreements on OALs...so traveling and seeing the world is not that big of a deal.

I am not trying to sugar coat working at Allegiant, it is not for everyone but it's good experience....regional experience is good as well...but in the long run, experience and knowledge is what will get you hired to the next level.
 
Allegiant's travel benefits are as good as any Regional's. I think Hondo might agree that the easy days are pretty damn easy. The hard days though are pretty damn hard. Its those hard days that make a good dispatcher as it is with any profession.
 
It's amazing how pampered many of us are. ACARS, SATCOM, digital PDC, highly automated flight planning systems. I think places like Allegiant are fantastic places for new dispatchers to go. I know my time at Ryan, where we didn't have a lot of the tools I'm afforded at WN, I learned an awful lot. Manual flight planning, plotting ETP's, redispatch, radio patches over HF, dealing with ATC all over the world... You can't buy that kind of education anywhere.
 
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