Airnet requirements

Like I said before, there's more to this story. PM me his name and I'll ask some buddies still there for the scoop, but it isn't as easy as failing a checkride and going back to what you were doing. I'm not sure of the big boys, but you know Airnet...bid out of some place for a run and you'd better be ready for your equipment change. Your old run is now taken over by somebody else.

Yes, it sucks, but that's how the system works. Fail a checkride, 6 month, or whatever and you might have problems. Fail 2, at Airnet and you're gone. I've never heard of somebody getting a chance to fail a third. I'm not saying it never happens, I've just never heard of it. Would you rather them pass somebody who wasn't up to par, then have a bad accident? What's Airnet's policy on overflying your destination? You remember that right?

For those not in the know, the assumption is you fell asleep with the autopilot on, if you overfly your destination; and if they find out about it it's an immediate pink slip. Thanks for playing. They'd rather send you packing than have another fatality. I definitely agree with their mentality.

Airnet has its problems, as does any company, however, almost all of their decisions come from a safety standpoint. Somebody else, or maybe even you, brought up in another thread, that they have no Mx budget. That is an awesome representation of the company...there is no limit whatsoever put on maintenance. Safety first. Long live Chuck Paul!!!!!;)
 
One thing about airnet is that they are not flexible on written policies. If the policy says bust two checkrides and you're gone.. that's it. If you have an accident/incident/violation etc on company time, they will hang you out to dry if the FAA is looking at the company practices/policies. They would much rather have you get violated and have a reason to fire you, than have a black mark on the company reputation. Like it has been said, they will not hold your hand so stay sharp and watch yourself. They are your certificates when the proverbial Shhht hits the fan. That being said.. fun company to fly for, great mx practices, good rep with the FAA.
 
Theres more to the story than is said here/should be said in a public forum. People get fired for a reason. 'Nuff said.
 
Flysher said:
Theres more to the story than is said here/should be said in a public forum. People get fired for a reason. 'Nuff said.
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Thanks...figured there was more to it than was being said. All I needed to know!

Keep in mind, for the newbies...Airnet training in the Caravan consists of 1 week in Wichita, with 4ish sim sessions (I don't remember exactly how many, but you get the idea), and a checkride, then you come back to Rickenbacker, fly the airplane for an intro flight, and then do a checkride in the airplane. What does a single engine checkride consist of? A few approaches, maneuvers in a hold, and a circle to land with the engine feathered. That's a ton of preparation for a very easy checkride.

Like I said, there's almost always more to the story than is normally brought forth.
 
dbrault17 said:
So now my question is this at some of the bigger airliners-If you get upgraded to captain or to bigger equipment and fail (assuming the same variables as our "friend here")what happens? Do they cut completly or do knock you down to your old posistion?
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They don't just give ya the boot so fast.

That's why we need unions . . .
 
Maybe they just don't want to deal with the feds. If the feds saw that people were failing a bunch of checkrides and sticking around, they'd probably be curious about how the training department works. Whether it be that the feds would like that or not no company wants to draw attention to themselves. Why not just save some money and only give people two chances in a row. It makes sense on different levels.

You just don't see that quick firing at airlines because of the unions of course. Fail twice and go back to whereever you came from. Next time you do that you get fired. That's why you occasionally see VERY senior FO's or Captains that could move up, but won't because they don't want to be put in a postion to be fired after failing upgrade or transition a second time. Just about anywhere you go in aviation, your job's on the line every so often. It's a fact of life for us. It just differs in intensity at different companies.
 
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