Airliner crash in Toronto

Apparently you all have the wrong information. I am privy to the facts. Here they are:
Elvis works for the CIA and intentionally rode a moose, from an alien planet, onto the runway.
The purpose of this was to stop the A-340 and arrest Usama bin Laden who was a passenger.
Gosh!
Those are some nice skills.
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When the moose comes from the sky it creates strong winds and rain.
 
I saw another angle on the the BBC a few minutes ago and it looked significantly "less dramatic" -- more or less a more overhead view with an aircraft sitting in a ravine with the tail section on fire.
 
Don't laugh! I have an acquaintance who regularly emails me conspiracy theories that are "must read".

Ought to see what he forwarded me about the London tube bombings.
 
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The last one i believe was in LFPG in 1994 and it was also an Air France. I don't remember if there were pax on that but the plane was completely destroyed.

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That part is correct - but you need the reason behind it.

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Well, i believe it has something to do with hijacking- as far as i know- i don't know if you consider that as an accident or an incident- take your pick-

Anyways, i don't get involved in a forum that involves plane crashes- i dont know why i got into this one- peace out- i am very glad that everyone survived the crash.
 
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The last one i believe was in LFPG in 1994 and it was also an Air France. I don't remember if there were pax on that but the plane was completely destroyed.

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That part is correct - but you need the reason behind it.

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Well, i believe it has something to do with hijacking- as far as i know- i don't know if you consider that as an accident or an incident- take your pick-

Anyways, i don't get involved in a forum that involves plane crashes- i dont know why i got into this one- peace out- i am very glad that everyone survived the crash.

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It caught fire during some maintenance, I heard they towed it out the hanger on fire - not sure how true the later part is.
 
All 309 people aboard a jet that overshot a runway and burst into flames at Pearson International Airport Tuesday survived the ordeal, according to fire officials on the scene.

There were 14 minor injuries, however.
Rescue crews trying to extinguish the flames.

One passenger aboard the Air France Airbus A340, Roel Bramar, told CBC News that he saw lightning just as the plane landed in a torrential downpour at about 3:50 p.m.

"I'm sure that the bad weather was responsible," said Bramar, who was not injured and managed to scramble off the plane by means of an emergency chute. He was the second person off the plane, he said.

* RELATED STORY: Everyone was 'running like crazy': passenger

Flight 358 from Paris had been scheduled to arrive at Toronto at 3:35 p.m. EDT. Something went badly wrong, and the plane overshot its intended runway by about 200 metres.

The plane skidded off Runway 24 Left, an east-west runway laid out parallel to one of Toronto's busiest roads, Highway 401. It ended up in the Etobicoke Creek ravine, a small valley at the far west end of the airport, the aircraft's fuselage tipped down and its tail in the air.

"We had a hell of a roller-coaster going down the ravine," Bramar said. "All I could think of was 'Get off!'"

Emergency crews were still on the scene by early evening.

While cleanup efforts continued and the Transportation Safety Board of Canada prepared to begin its investigation, all incoming flights were being rerouted to Ottawa's airport.

* YOUR SPACE: Send us your eyewitness accounts and photos

* YOUR REACTION: Letters about the accident

The incident happened as most operations at the airport were grounded because of severe thunderstorms in the area.

At mid-afternoon Tuesday, a spokesperson with the Greater Toronto Airports Authority said lightning was causing technical problems with the airport's lightning-detection system. All aircraft were grounded for safety reasons as a result, largely to protect crews working on the ground.
www.cbc.ca
 
This is from expierence and I am purely speculating, but one report said that rain had just began prior to the landing of the AC. When a road/runway is just a little wet, the oil from tire rubber has not washed off the surface. Also in Canada, they don't believe in grooved runways. So I think he sliped and slid all the way down the runway. He was driving on a sheet of ice. Its happend before in either Ottawa or Montreal at our company about a year and a half ago.

Toronto Runways are defined as...
Runway 5/23 (11120' x 200'), Surface: Concrete/Asphalt, Runway 6R/24L (9000' x 200'), Surface: Asphalt, Runway 6L/24R (9697' x 200'), Surface: Asphalt, Runway 15R/33L (9088' x 200'), Surface: Asphalt, Runway 15L/33R (11050' x 200'), Surface: Asphalt;
 
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With all due respect, I believe our speculation was quite a bit more fact-based than any other speculation out there on the internet.

Additionally, the thread didn't denegrate into heartless "jokes" or people making ridiculous claims (trying to start an A vs. B war). Refer to the a.net thread and you'll see that our speculation (which is a natural way of trying to deal with a situation) was a lot better than it could've been.
 
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Stupid Canadian METARs
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Just out of curiosity...why do you think that our (Canadian) METARs are stupid??? Seems like a silly thing to say!
 
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Just out of curiosity...why do you think that our (Canadian) METARs are stupid??? Seems like a silly thing to say!

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It was just a silly thing to say. It's just unfamiliarity with your comments section which is a bit different than ours...

"RMK RA2SF2TCU5 CB ASOCTD" ... I know what RA, TCU and CB are, and I can guess that ASOCTD means... But I had never seen remarks with only one number qualifier... Care to enlighten your neighbors to the south?

Edit: emphasis on it being JUST a silly comment, nothing more
 
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Just out of curiosity...why do you think that our (Canadian) METARs are stupid??? Seems like a silly thing to say!

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Well, you guys do sell your milk in bags . . .

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Regarding the lightning, I heard on the live ATC archive feed the KLM heavy behind the Air France plane got a report of a lightning strike in the approach path about 6 miles ahead just moments prior to the crash. People on another board (not a.net!) heard that as well. What is the seperation between heavy's usually?

Would a lightning strike on the 340 really knock out vital systems for a safe landing?
 
Chris,

I'm not sure if this is what your asking, but those numbers represent the number of oktas of coverage (i.e. SF2= 2/8 sky coverage of stratus fractus cloud).

And MTSU- selling milk in bags is a golden idea! My mom always keeps the bags and reuses them as lunch bags. Then again, us canucks are very environmentally friendly - you know the 3 Rs- reduce, reuse, recycle!
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Hmm, so rain took up 2/8ths of the sky, and towering cumulus took up 5/8ths? I guess that makes sense... if things can overlap (otherwise 9/8ths makes my head explode)
 
I didn't notice that RA2 there. Must be a typo. Nobody is perfect- especially not Canadians
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Just out of curiosity...why do you think that our (Canadian) METARs are stupid??? Seems like a silly thing to say!

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Well, you guys do sell your milk in bags . . .

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What are you talking aboot?

They have a 55 yard line in their football field...
They had eight football teams and TWO of them were called the Roughriders...
They eat their fries with gravy...
Hockey isn't so much a sport as a religion...

They look like us and sound (mostly) like us, but they're a little different!
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And in the words of Triumph, "I keed, I keed..."
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And what's wrong with selling milk in bags? We do that in Brazil too, and in many other latin countries.
 
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