Airline T/O procedure: hand(s) on throttle...

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I saw in a CoExpress Beech 1900 (no cockpit door) that during takeoff, it seemed that both pilots' hands were on the throttle while advancing them for takeoff.

I was under the impression that the pilot flying is the one who controls the throttle (during takeoff, landing, etc.) ?
 
What you probably saw was the FO "tweaking" the power on the takeoff roll. If it is the Captain's takeoff, he will advance the levers a certain amount and hold a light touch or even raise his hands to let the FO get the exact takeoff setting (you don't firewall turbine engines for takeoff). This allows the captain (or flying pilot) to keep his eyes outside while the other pilot sets the thrust.
 
On the 757, there is a call to "set takeoff thrust", after the FP pushes the N1/EPR autothrottle button. Who the heck are you talking, too, though? The airplane? The NFP isn't supposed to do anything or touch the throttles. It's all automated. First time I've ever made a command to an airplane...
 
Guys.... ( and gals ) ...

Thought we would all know this , during t/o , the Captain must keep his hands on throttle til at least V1 , the Pilot Flying can set the thrust , then the captain takes it and holds it lightly , not changing the setting , to V1.

Calum
 
I got to jumpseat on an ANG KC-135 once and after the aircraft commander advanced the throttles, the copilot put his hand on top of the ACs. My best guess at the time was that this was to prevent the throttles from being inadvertently retarded during the takeoff roll.
 
the old Swiss Air (unsure about the new one) had a company policy that said both pilots hands must be on the throttle during take off, for safety reasons. (not really sure what they were, but...)
 
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On the 757, there is a call to "set takeoff thrust", after the FP pushes the N1/EPR autothrottle button. Who the heck are you talking, too, though? The airplane? The NFP isn't supposed to do anything or touch the throttles. It's all automated. First time I've ever made a command to an airplane...

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That's not a bad idea. I'm sure part of it is commonality in your fleet. But also, on A/T aircraft there are times when takeoff thrust may not be set by the A/Ts. Specifically, on the 737-800 if you accidentally are applying any pressure to the throttles as you select A/T you get nothing. It's easy to miss if you already had the power up to a pretty good level. You do 100 takeoffs that work perfectly, you might stop backing up the A/Ts when it doesn't work.
 
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Guys.... ( and gals ) ...

Thought we would all know this , during t/o , the Captain must keep his hands on throttle til at least V1 , the Pilot Flying can set the thrust , then the captain takes it and holds it lightly , not changing the setting , to V1.

Calum

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huh???
 
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I saw in a CoExpress Beech 1900 (no cockpit door) that during takeoff, it seemed that both pilots' hands were on the throttle while advancing them for takeoff.

I was under the impression that the pilot flying is the one who controls the throttle (during takeoff, landing, etc.) ?

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Either this was awhile ago or either continental Connection and not express. Were you down south or up north?
 
Hey DE, on a three-person cockpit, doesn't the FE manipulate/control the throttles at takeoff, or something like that? On the C-130, that's what the FE appeared to be doing (his cockpit seat is between the pilot/co just behind the center console.
 
I saw something like once Mike ,

Cant remember where though , it might have been a 727 , but i reallly ament sure.

Calum
 
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I saw something like once Mike ,

Cant remember where though , it might have been a 727 , but i reallly ament sure.

Calum

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a300,

Yes. Saw the same thing when jumping on a 727 a few times.....FE slides his seat forward and swivels it facing forward for takeoff. Was doing some throttle adjustments during the takeoff roll, it seemed.
 
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On the 757, there is a call to "set takeoff thrust", after the FP pushes the N1/EPR autothrottle button. Who the heck are you talking, too, though? The airplane? The NFP isn't supposed to do anything or touch the throttles.

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The NFP is suppose to back up the autothrottles to ensure that the proper power setting is set by 80kts. You're talking to the NFP when you say this.

At UPS, it's the Capt who keeps his/her hand on the throttles during the takeoff roll. If it's the f/o's leg, he'll advance the power initially and select EPR/N1. The f/o's hand will then come off the throttles and be replaced by the Capt's until V1.

BTW, did you know that on the B75/76 the autothrottles will not advance, after selecting EPR/N1, if the flaps are not in a takeoff configuration.
 
At Skykway, the NFP backed up the throttles, but at Delta, once power is set, only the captain has his hands on the throttle.

I'm still not sold on that procedure, but whatever!
 
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Either this was awhile ago or either continental Connection and not express. Were you down south or up north?

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100% sure it was a CoExpress Beech... July 6 or 7, 1999. From CLE to PIT, although now the service is with ConConnection.
 
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