Airbus to raise floor on A380 to create 11-abreast

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Airbus will literally raise the floor on the Airbus A380 to accommodate 18-inch wide economy class seats in 11-abreast configuration, Mark Lapidus, CEO of leasing company Amedeo revealed today at the ISTAT conference in San Diego.

“We pushed Airbus very hard to get 11-abreast introduced, [which adds] 35 to 40 extra seats, and it puts in perspective the unit cost issue,” said Lapidus.

Crucially, he said, Airbus will go 11-abreast “and still deliver an 18-inch seat”. This will be accomplished by “raising the floor by two inches in the wider part of the aircraft”.

The economics of the aircraft will be “significantly improved” he said, adding that “on a per square foot basis, the A380-800 will have lower unit [costs] than the A350-1000 and the 777X”.

Airbus is eager to tempt its largest A380 customer, Emirates, to take delivery of the double-decker aircraft in 11-abreast configuration. The manufacturer will reveal a new 11-abreast A380 cabin mock-up at the forthcoming Aircraft Interiors Expo in Hamburg, Runway Girl Network can reveal.

Last fall, after announcing a fresh order for 50 A380s, Emirates president Tim Clark was asked about the carrier’s interest level in offering an 11-abreast layout, which would increase the number of economy seats on the double decker aircraft by about 40. Clark responded that he was “sure Airbus is going to persuade us to do it”, but that the airline wanted to make sure the seats remain at least 18 inches wide. Emirates currently offers 19-inch wide seats in 10-abreast formation on its A380s.

An Airbus executive told Runway Girl Network at ISTAT that the airframer has also achieved an 18-inch wide seat in 11-abreast configuration through creative shaping of the armrests. Airbus has not removed the window seat armrest, he said.

Has Airbus pursued a 4-3-4 layout or 3-5-3? This wasn’t mentioned on the panel, but Air Lease Corp chief Steven Udvar-Hazy figuratively suggested that an 11-abreast configuration would be super-snug for passengers when he jumped on the moderator to prove his point (unfortunately we don’t have photographer evidence of this, but we hope someone took a picture!)

The 3-5-3 configuration has been a point of concern for Emirates. Indeed, Tim Clark “said the real issue [with an 11-abreast A380] is the middle seat of 5 in the 3-5-3 configuration. Emirates is focused on comfort and I don’t think we’d ever compromise on that,” Emirates VP, product, publishing, digital and events Patrick Brannelly previously told us.
 
Sounds horrible. Will they raise all the windows by two inches as well for all of the window seat passengers? Probably not
 
I'll believe it when Airbus says it.

Lapidus is a salesman who's trying to apply pressure to the manufacturer. Offer an outlanding proposal like creating a new variant to get 30 more seats, and it's easier for Airbus to justify a more-reasonable soution (that would have been more unpleasant in an unprompted vacuum).

But still, a salesman trying truss-up an animal into a different shape.
 
Remember when there were going to be flying casinos and lounges? Yeah me neither

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18" economy seats? No wonder US airlines aren't buying them. 17" is more than enough for the US flying public.
 
Yeah, but you gotta subtract all the skinny assed Frenchmen flying there "for scuuuba"
I've been on the second segment from Los Angeles to Tahiti on Air France and I always ask why these people do this to themselves. I get that it is a colony but I can think of a half a dozen places half the distance that could offer similar experiences.

P.S. Bora Bora is overrated, Moorea is where "best scuba" can and will be had.
 
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