Windchill
Well-Known Member
Anyone reading my reply in "I'm Lost" will see that I wrote about the non-necessity of getting advanced civilian ratings to look better to a UPT Candidate Selection Board, and how in some ways it may be looked down upon.
This is taken from one who has been there, posted at baseops.
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Here's what I saw...
Tweets:
We had 1 CFI and 1 Commercial pilot drop on request
We had one guy with advanced civil ratings get eliminated.
Our top stick in Tweets was a Marine with 25 hrs.
Our top AF dude to go to -38's had his 40 hr PPL and that's it.
Of our 2 dudes who went to Corpus, one was a CFI, one was a PPL guy
T-Ones
Our DG had a couple hundred hours, and of our top few dudes, one was a CFI, two had their PPL's.
As you can see, it was pretty mixed. There is a lot more to pilot training than showing up with a ticket full of ratings. Being a team player and knowing the military way of doing business will pay great dividends.
BTW, as an ATC guy, you hold the same double edged sword I did as a former -135 nav. You'll have people tell you "Oh, it'll be so easy, you already know how to talk on the radios, blah, blah, blah." I don't know your background, but I personally had never ever seen anything that compares to the RSU Controlled Tweet traffic pattern. There are just enough differences to not let you rest on your experience.
I think that was the hardest thing for our civillian fliers to overcome was the AETC way of talking on the radio in a pattern full of 12 Tweets and not pissing everybody off. Our flight commander would routinely yell "You guys need to lose your ******* civillian habits!" so much that we would say it to each other anytime anyone said the word "Piper" or "Hobbs-meter" or anything else associated with your local FBO.
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This is taken from one who has been there, posted at baseops.
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Here's what I saw...
Tweets:
We had 1 CFI and 1 Commercial pilot drop on request
We had one guy with advanced civil ratings get eliminated.
Our top stick in Tweets was a Marine with 25 hrs.
Our top AF dude to go to -38's had his 40 hr PPL and that's it.
Of our 2 dudes who went to Corpus, one was a CFI, one was a PPL guy
T-Ones
Our DG had a couple hundred hours, and of our top few dudes, one was a CFI, two had their PPL's.
As you can see, it was pretty mixed. There is a lot more to pilot training than showing up with a ticket full of ratings. Being a team player and knowing the military way of doing business will pay great dividends.
BTW, as an ATC guy, you hold the same double edged sword I did as a former -135 nav. You'll have people tell you "Oh, it'll be so easy, you already know how to talk on the radios, blah, blah, blah." I don't know your background, but I personally had never ever seen anything that compares to the RSU Controlled Tweet traffic pattern. There are just enough differences to not let you rest on your experience.
I think that was the hardest thing for our civillian fliers to overcome was the AETC way of talking on the radio in a pattern full of 12 Tweets and not pissing everybody off. Our flight commander would routinely yell "You guys need to lose your ******* civillian habits!" so much that we would say it to each other anytime anyone said the word "Piper" or "Hobbs-meter" or anything else associated with your local FBO.
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