Add-on CFII

epilotdream91

epilotdream91

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Hello, so i have my CFI-A as of november 2014 and i have zero duel given due weather (i live in NY) . I havent flown at all (im a poor college student) and so during all this free time ive been studying to get my II out of the way. Ive been studying the FARs, IFH, Jeppeson text book, PTS ect... I was just wondering how a CFII add-on ride would go if there is anyone that went that route. How long of an oral should i expect and what to expect on the flight thanks.
 
Just look in the CFII PTS it will tell you what all is involved, ie the matrix that is on page 20.

I went that way many years ago, it was a fairly straight forward ride. Also since its and add on you can use a DPE (provided they can do that type of ride) and don't have bother with the FSDO. All in all I think mine was about 2hrs of ground, including paperwork; and about a 1.5 flight.
 
Here's a gouge for my CFII ride. As far as I know most DPE's will do the exact same ride for CFII as they did for IA. Best of luck!


-Preflight, etc.
Takeoff 36 at KMDQ
Hold at jebka
Vectors to ils 18
Go missed
Vectors to intercept the 070 radial of Rocket (RQZ) VOR
fly 070 radial outbound and do a 10 dme arc
Arc to rqz 45 radial and intercept, then fly back to the VOR (back it up in nav2 and put 045 in azimuth)
Covers up directional gyro and attitude indicator for a hold
Teardrop into hold; hold right turns from 8dme to 10dme using nav 2 and magnetic compass (you can 'cheat' if you need to and use gps track, but it's not really necessary if you can judge the oscillations. vertical card compass made this easy.)
Hold 3x around pattern
Vectored me to the vor approach into kfym (fayetteville)
Go missed, then vectors into kmdq
Localizer circling approach into kmdq
Land, immediately takeoff
Finish with a PAR approach under the hood to the runway (turn...stopturn.. Descents.. Yeah; it wasn't bad)


Oral Exam

Go over my nav log
Call a briefer and get the briefing for the route
Go over briefing
Reviews route
Reviews emergency procedures on an approach with wx below minimums into kcha, holding procedures with then goes over various fuel level calculations, lost coms, and equipment failures
Remember DR: dead reckoning (time, distance, gs to get through the soup with an electrical and vacuum failure)
Reviewed the 10 things that constitute runway environment

That's pretty much it. If you gave him the impression you didn't know what you were talking about I think he would get tougher, but overall it's not bad.
 
Well for the CFII they won't expect a flight plan necessarily. You should be able to teach Navaids, and know everything on the charts, naturally
 
True. And this was actually from my instrument ride but it was the exact same profile in the air and the exact same stuff in the ground. I had lesson plans but I didn't end up needing them. Don't remember if I had to do a nav log or not on the II; he'll probably tell you when you schedule.
 
sorry for my bad English.

my add-on cfi was easy(6 years ago) . I think they look at your previous experience. I was an ex 135 captain and cfi with little experience, with an atp, and I decided to ad this cfii to my certificate just for the fun.

what I remember :I just tracked a vor radial, under hood, FAA examiner start to talk to me about non aviation thing to see if I can fly the plane without stress.

then he asked me to hold at a dme. 2 turns, then gave me vector for an ils, then he cover instrument (dg) and I went with compass to minimum for circle to land as I was instructed by tower to make a circle to land. , then touch and go, back to my airport which was 10 miles away , land, and back inside building to get my temporary certificate from Iacra.

ground was easy, he flipped all pts pages and asked me briefly to explain the subject. done in 40 minutes . finally I got my cfii only 15 years after my initial.
 
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Good luck. The Double-I opens up a lot more instructing opportunities for you....plus it's just a lot of fun teaching instrument flying.
 
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