AA/PSA 5342 crew coming home thread

Beefy McGee

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Not sure if anyone can make it, but PSA ALPA just sent arrival info for FA Ian Epstein coming home to CLT tonight. I'm going to try to make it.

PSA-ALPA:
FA Ian Epstein and family return to CLT tonight, AA365 (DCA 7:54 p, CLT 9:37 p). CA will announce his presence. Honors at gate.

I guess as we get similar info for others we can post it.
 
Not sure if anyone can make it, but PSA ALPA just sent arrival info for FA Ian Epstein coming home to CLT tonight. I'm going to try to make it.

PSA-ALPA:
FA Ian Epstein and family return to CLT tonight, AA365 (DCA 7:54 p, CLT 9:37 p). CA will announce his presence. Honors at gate.

I guess as we get similar info for others we can post it.
I came across a video on FB of the flight with his remains onboard taxiing out of DCA with a water cannon salute. Very sobering and eerily quiet even with a ramp full of people and an airplane running.
 
Some of our crews were there for it, too. I teared up.

(Also, I sure hope the laugh reaction is a mistake)
 
Flight Home: Friday, February 7, 2025
Captain Campos and his family will be flown home to New York on American Airlines flight 2074, DCA-LGA, departing Gate D39 at DCA at 5:50 pm and arriving in LGA at 7:16 pm.

A water cannon salute will honor Captain Campos at departure at DCA and upon arrival at LGA.
 
Glad to see they are doing this, classy move from American. I'd also definitely recommend going. I regret being on an airline trip when they brought our Growler crew "home" from their final temporary duty to the Dover AFB medical examiner a couple months ago. .
 
Flight Home: Friday, February 7, 2025
Captain Campos and his family will be flown home to New York on American Airlines flight 2074, DCA-LGA, departing Gate D39 at DCA at 5:50 pm and arriving in LGA at 7:16 pm.

A water cannon salute will honor Captain Campos at departure at DCA and upon arrival at LGA.
“Funeral services will be held on Tuesday 11 Feb in Brooklyn. Crewmembers are welcome and uniforms are strongly encouraged.

Tuesday 11 Feb 2025​

9:45 AM​

St. Bernadette

8201 13th Avenue

Brooklyn, NY 11228



CA Campos obituary can be found here.”


Captain Jonathan Campos Obituary​

Jonathan Jay Campos was born in Bronx, New York on March 13, 1990. He grew up in Brooklyn, New York with his Mother, Jeannine Campos, Father, Feliberto Campos Jr., and maternal Aunt, Beverly Lane. Through his childhood and adolescence, Jonathan enjoyed frequent travels with his family including his mother, aunts Beverly, Maria and Julie and her partner Tom, his Uncle Johnny and late Aunt Theresa. He experienced at least 40 cruises in his lifetime. He loved fast vehicles and always wanted to become a pilot. Jonathan was averse to staying still, and his kinetic energy and perpetual curiosity kept him striving for bigger and better conquests all the time.

At the tender age of 9, Jonathan lost his father, who was a New York City Police Officer. This left an impression of service upon Jonathan well into his adulthood. He often traveled with his father’s badge, and even had a tattoo of the badge with number 4935 on his right shoulder. His mother and maternal aunt Beverly continued to raise Jonathan as the family held his father’s memories and legacy dear, including weekly visits to his father’s gravesite in St. John’s Cemetery, where Jonathan too will be interred.



Jonathan went to PS 90 for elementary school, IS 303 for middle school, and later graduated from John Dewey High School in 2008. In high school, he served as the leading AV assistant for school shows, and loved helping around the marine biology lab. Jonathan loved marine science, music, pyrotechnics, racing, scuba diving, snowboarding, sky diving, horseback riding, motorcycles, boating, flying, joking, travel, reptiles, aquariums, and making others laugh. He was known for his vibrant, bigger than life personality.



In 2008, Jonathan moved to Daytona Beach, Florida to purse his bachelors degree from Embry Riddle Aeronautical University. On December 28, 2008, Jonathan proposed to his high school sweetheart, Nicole Suissa. They remained happily engaged for some time. Though the pair never married, they remained friends and confidants to one another until Jonathan’s untimely passing. Jonathan graduated from Embry Riddle with a Bachelors in Aeronautical Science in 2015. He worked tirelessly to pursue his flight hours and pass his assessment for his flight certifications. He later pursued his flight instructor certification from Epic Flight Academy where he also served as a flight instructor. He held a helicopter pilot’s license as well as a scuba diving certification. Somehow, he also found time to be a motorcycle racer, and an aircraft mechanic. Jonathan loved exotic aquariums and enjoyed reptile and aquarium conventions. He was the proud owner of an exotic aquarium in his Ormond Beach, FL home.



In 2018, Jonathan was selected to fly commercially for PSA, a subsidiary of American Airlines. He became a Captain at PSA in 2022, a position he coveted and took very seriously. Jonathan’s passion for aviation and love of flying in service of others was exhibited everyday, in every offer to family and friends, every friendly encounter with his students, every on air announcement to his cabin and crew. Jonathan lived and loved his work.



He is predeceased by his loving father, Feliberto (“Feli”) Campos Jr., his grandmother, Jean Lane, and his Aunt, Theresa Lane.



He leaves behind his doting family, Jeannine Campos, Beverly Lane, Maria Lane, Julie Lane, John Lane, his girlfriend of 10 years, Ashley Childress, and many heartbroken friends, students, colleagues, and former classmates. Jonathan will forever be missed for his mischievous grin, infectious laugh, goofy sense of humor, unparalleled passion, perseverance, grit, and adventurous spirit.



All are welcome to his funeral service at Torregrossa Funeral Home at 1305 79th St, Brooklyn, NY 11228. Interment at St. John’s Cemetery to follow.




To send flowers to the family or plant a tree in memory of Captain Jonathan, pleasevisit our floral store.”
 
I did not intend this when I listed but I’m commuting on CA Campos’s final flight. I watched them load his remains.

As I type this, there is a very large group who came out to the ramp to stand and pay respects. PSA, AA, DL, a few RPA and SWA and even a couple of B6 folks. Lots of inflight, too. Others I probably can’t identify.

His family is on board, seated up front as they should be. It’s very somber.

I don’t feel right taking pictures of it (lots were) but I’m sure you’ll see some in the news.
 
Flight Home: Saturday, February 8, 2025
First Officer Lilley and his family will be flown home to Savannah from Washington National Airport on American Airlines Flight 9604 DCA–SAV departing Gate D39 at DCA at 8:24 a.m. and arriving in SAV at 10:38 a.m. Please monitor the American app and airport monitors for arrival gate in SAV.

Pilots will be allowed ramp access at both airports. For access, you must be in uniform and:

  • For DCA, be at Gate C23 at 7 a.m.DCA will provide a dedicated security lane should KCM experience delays.
  • For SAV, be at the gate well in advance of the flight’s scheduled 10:38 a.m. arrival.
A water cannon salute will honor First Officer Lilley on departure at DCA and upon arrival at SAV.
 
Anyone else find that this is hitting them a little harder than they thought it would? I can't tell if it is because I am older, or because it has been so long since we have had an accident like this in the states but the the crew and pax have been on my mind a lot. If I wasn't in CQ I would have flown across the country to be there, and I have never really felt the need to do that in the past.
 
Anyone else find that this is hitting them a little harder than they thought it would? I can't tell if it is because I am older, or because it has been so long since we have had an accident like this in the states but the the crew and pax have been on my mind a lot. If I wasn't in CQ I would have flown across the country to be there, and I have never really felt the need to do that in the past.

👋 Same. Glad it’s not just me. I assume it’s a bit of age and things I probably shouldn’t say on social media at this point.
 
Anyone else find that this is hitting them a little harder than they thought it would? I can't tell if it is because I am older, or because it has been so long since we have had an accident like this in the states but the the crew and pax have been on my mind a lot. If I wasn't in CQ I would have flown across the country to be there, and I have never really felt the need to do that in the past.

I was talking to a group of crisis counselors this week about something unrelated to aviation, but I asked them that exact thing. After a bit of back and forth we came up with two possible theories. First, there hasn't been an accident like this in the US in a very long time, and while we never become immune to the shock of a sudden, terrible thing, frequency of exposure does help to mitigate the body's response. Secondly, as of right now, it seems pretty clear that CRJ pilots did absolutely nothing wrong and yet still ended up dead. We all think of ourselves as top notch pilots who would never make a fatal mistake so when we read an accident report where the crew contributed to the problem we immediately preclude ourselves from ever experiencing that because we wouldn't make that mistake. But this could have been us, the perfect pilot. And that hits home.
 
This has been the thing for me as well. It sounds weird but I wanted them to have screwed up so we would have a clear answer of a mistake. Hard to reconcile that they did nothing wrong and everyone died.

Not suggesting this makes it any better, but there is a ton of accidents that have happened where the pilots did nothing wrong. TWA 800, Concorde, the two 737’s that rudder hard over’d, the Alaska MD-80 with the broken jackscrew, etc just to name a few. Just bad luck that they were in the airplanes they were in. The world is full of moments like that. Like above, fate is the hunter. If it is your time, it is your time. Sucks but that’s the way it goes.


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Not suggesting this makes it any better, but there is a ton of accidents that have happened where the pilots did nothing wrong. TWA 800, Concorde, the two 737’s that rudder hard over’d, the Alaska MD-80 with the broken jackscrew, etc just to name a few. Just bad luck that they were in the airplanes they were in. The world is full of moments like that. Like above, fate is the hunter. If it is your time, it is your time. Sucks but that’s the way it goes.


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While a fair point, all those incidents/accidents seemed to just blend together and happen in a relative closer time to each other. Compared to this event, 16 years elapsed.
 
Anyone else find that this is hitting them a little harder than they thought it would? I can't tell if it is because I am older, or because it has been so long since we have had an accident like this in the states but the the crew and pax have been on my mind a lot. If I wasn't in CQ I would have flown across the country to be there, and I have never really felt the need to do that in the past.
It’s been the same for me. I think also because it’s the first major accident at a US airline since I became an airline pilot, so having that inside perspective makes it hit harder for me. It’s easy to take “I’ll be on the 5:00pm commute home, what are we doing for dinner?” or that kiss goodbye leaving the house for granted. It was a reminder for me to let the small stuff go. As safe as this job is, coming home isn’t guaranteed. That could equally apply to the drive to and from the airport, but something about it being this tragic and with so many lives makes it more poignant for me.
Related note, whenever I work on or around 9/11, it’s on my mind a little more too than it used to be. Just realizing they were all heading out for a normal trip, just like us. Also like you said, something about getting older myself just makes me realize how fragile life can be.
 
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