A plea for hizzelp!

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I've reached a desperate point in my life! I've reached a point where, as an AGI, I have a primary student who really wants to get started with the flying part... but called around and found no instructors available to help him out.

I've been "trying" to get my CFI for years now... meaning that I've been studying the materials, etc. off and on... but I have a billion distractions in my life.

I desperately need an "accelerated" CFI course. I need something that will allow me to take a few weeks off of work and immerse myself, then emerge with my CFI with a pretty high likelihood of success.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

-Fox
 
Sheble Aviation in Bullhead City, AZ worked well for me. Vegas fsdo will assign you an examiner, so don't let the Eddie Lane (who was not an employee of shebles when he was a DPE) drama scare you away. Feel free to PM me any questions you have about my experience.
 
You might want to look at Double Eagle Aviation in Tucson, AZ.

I will add a disclaimer that I do work for them, but our chief pilot (who does all of the CFI training) is extremely good at getting CFI candidates done quickly, and most people get finished within about nine days. Since you already have the AGI, that would cut down on the amount of time and $$ required to get done.
 
American Flyers...That's where I'll be doing mine later this year... I think they have a 30 day accelerated course for the CFI & CFII
 
I desperately need an "accelerated" CFI course. I need something that will allow me to take a few weeks off of work and immerse myself, then emerge with my CFI with a pretty high likelihood of success.

Does anyone have any suggestions?


Do what I did - set up an appointment for the CFI ride, realize that it it is going to happen, so you might as well be prepared (and study), then take the ride?

If you are already doing real ground instruction, you are way ahead of most people that take a CFI initial ride.

What do you think that you are weak on?
 
Totally agree with the Beagle. You could go somewhere for a 2-3 week course, or you could just take control of your life and get it done right at home. Your distractions dont go away for 3 weeks, you just are forced to ignore them... so step up and take control of your own time.

Right now, pick up the phone and call the FSDO and schedule your CFI Inital for 3 weeks out.

When you hang up with them call and schedule a local complex and instructor for 2 hours per day for the next 3 days in a row, teach the CFI all Com maneuvers. After 3 lessons you should both know if you're flying is up to Com PTS and how well you can talk and fly. You'll know how much more tune up work you need a that point.

Put aside 2 hours per night, starting tonight, to write lesson plans for every task in the PTS.

Stop delaying, stop making excuses, schedule it and be done with it.
 
I've reached a desperate point in my life! I've reached a point where, as an AGI, I have a primary student who really wants to get started with the flying part... but called around and found no instructors available to help him out.

I've been "trying" to get my CFI for years now... meaning that I've been studying the materials, etc. off and on... but I have a billion distractions in my life.

I desperately need an "accelerated" CFI course. I need something that will allow me to take a few weeks off of work and immerse myself, then emerge with my CFI with a pretty high likelihood of success.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

-Fox


Acrofox: I went with Dave Simpson at "Take Flight San Diego" Great program, great CFI. Let me know if you want more intel on this program.

I agree with the above comments, as an AGI you are way ahead of the crowd.
 
Those on the full $65K course can still do it, but just for the CFI, II and MEI it's a no go.
 
Oof. I have GOT to remember that I don't autosubscribe to posted threads. I thought nobody had replied! >.<;

Sorry, fellas.

mojo6911 ozziecat35 I've considered AF strongly, and they're at the top of the list. My only issue is that three weeks is just one of those amounts of time that I'm sure my work will balk at. Two weeks? Two weeks and change? Never a problem. Three weeks feels uncomfortable to ask for. That said, I did ask my VP today to let me know if she finds a hole in the project cycle... ozziecat35 : When are you going? PMP or SMO?

A150K I considered Sheble, but I admit that I did get a bit frightened away by the D. L. Lane fiasco. Also, as Sheble's reputation has improved, their prices seem to have gone up accordingly; the last time I was doing research, when ATP was still in the running, ATP was significantly cheaper for the program.

That said, I'm willing to revisit the idea.

Ajax BU Someone, possibly you, mentioned CFI Care before. When I looked at it, it appeared that they didn't do initial CFI. However, the website has changed a bit since the last time I saw it (I think!) and now it looks as if they offer CFII as the initial CFI (I think this is how AF does it, as well). That recommendation carries plenty of weight with me -- I'll send them an email and see what I can see.

drunkenbeagle Well, it's not that I think I'm weak in any particular area so much as that I don't feel like I'm even remotely prepared to sit in a room with a FAA inspector/DPE for eight hours and demonstrate instructional knowledge of anything s/he can come up with. Also, I need to finish up my commercial single (I have a commercial multi and IR, but haven't yet gotten my comm se addon) Your advice is very good, however. My biggest issue is that I want to be overprepared for the CFI ride ... and that's largely because I want to improve my own skills as well. I'm comfortable talking and flying, have given some practice instruction to friends, and have done a reasonable amount of ground instruction for various people... but I know that there's a ton that I don't know, and I've lost track of it. Plus, there are many things that if I haven't seen recently I have trouble recalling. Basically, I think most of the knowledge is there, but I need someone to help me glue it all together in a structured context.

rframe You're absolutely right, of course. I just feel like, for this one checkride, I want some structure... someone else to look over my shoulder and say "Ok, we've gone through pretty much everything I can think of and then some. I think you're ready." It's not that I'm not self-motivating, but I like having a second set of eyes (at least) to make sure I didn't miss anything crucial.

Markf64 I've seen that website before, but didn't know anyone who had any personal insight into the program. Now I do! I admit that that level of time compression is very appealing. It's a tad on the pricy side when you add together the cost, room, DPE fees (if any) and San Diego living expenses, but the timeframe sure fits the bill ... and with an endorsement like that, my ears are definitely perked. I'd definitely love to hear what you'd have to say.

mshunter Unfortunately, ATP doesn't do initial CFI for non-ACPP students anymore. They WERE at the top of my list, due to my previous experience with them and their cost.

LibTech7 I have a lot of friends in Ft. Collins ... that could be a pretty awesome place to get it done. I'm also checked out in the 8KCAB down at LMO, so I could get my acro fix in while I was there. I'll look them up when I'm done typing this message!

Thanks a bunch for all the responses, fellas. A ${beverage} for any of you if you find yourself near Mountain View, CA. :>

-Fox
 
I spoke with a guy that was in the same class as I was at CFI Care over the weekend. He said that he visited with Gary and that he is now doing CFI Initials again.
 
drunkenbeagle Well, it's not that I think I'm weak in any particular area so much as that I don't feel like I'm even remotely prepared to sit in a room with a FAA inspector/DPE for eight hours and demonstrate instructional knowledge of anything s/he can come up with. Also, I need to finish up my commercial single (I have a commercial multi and IR, but haven't yet gotten my comm se addon) Your advice is very good, however. My biggest issue is that I want to be overprepared for the CFI ride ... and that's largely because I want to improve my own skills as well. I'm comfortable talking and flying, have given some practice instruction to friends, and have done a reasonable amount of ground instruction for various people... but I know that there's a ton that I don't know, and I've lost track of it. Plus, there are many things that if I haven't seen recently I have trouble recalling. Basically, I think most of the knowledge is there, but I need someone to help me glue it all together in a structured context.


Fair enough.

You definitely do not need to have every FAR memorized, but you do need to know where to find just about anything quickly. My Airplane CFI Oral was about 90 minutes long, but like you, I had done the a Commercial Single Engine add-on the day before. That made things a lot easier.

I think that if you sit down with a few different CFIs and have them grill you on a mock-oral, you may find that you are more prepared than you think.
 
The initial CFI at Colorado Contrails was 2 weeks if I remember correctly. ryan4sail just got back from there and I think he had a pretty good experience as well. I did study A LOT (make lesson plans, ect.) before I got there, so I know that helped out quite a bit. After ground school (about 50 hours) with the owner Jack (awesome guy), and flying with their instructors, I was very prepared for the ride. Great people, great aircraft, and awesome area as you already know.

Oh, and they also have a Citabria for spin training, so you can get some acro in as well.
 
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