61.39 question
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av8tr1
"Never tell me the odds!"
61.39 says you have to have received and logged training in preparation for the practical test.
but it doesn't specify what that is other than prep for the checkride. So if you are comfortable and your cfi is comfortable you might get away with just ground.
Your cfi runs the risk of you fail or if something goes wrong and there is an investigation and you didn't have any flight training.
Your cfi will need to do a new endorsement in your log book.
You do need to resubmit a Iacra app. Just create a new one. Once they are submitted you can't call it back. So you'll have to start from scratch. Just print the previous and copy the info from the old to the new.
but it doesn't specify what that is other than prep for the checkride. So if you are comfortable and your cfi is comfortable you might get away with just ground.
Your cfi runs the risk of you fail or if something goes wrong and there is an investigation and you didn't have any flight training.
Your cfi will need to do a new endorsement in your log book.
You do need to resubmit a Iacra app. Just create a new one. Once they are submitted you can't call it back. So you'll have to start from scratch. Just print the previous and copy the info from the old to the new.
MidlifeFlyer
Well-Known Member
That is not accurate. 61.39 refers you to the requirements for each certificate and rating.
So, for example, for the private certificate, ASEL, you need to look at 61.109(a)(4) which says...
av8tr1
"Never tell me the odds!"
I think we have a difference in the interpretation of the OPs post.
I read it as the OP has completed all the requirements for the rating Superduck is seeking. However for reasons unclear Superduck was unable to perform the practical test with an examiner in the last 2 calendar months since his instructor made an endorsement for the practical test. So from my point of view this comes down to is he still ready for the check ride. The FAR isn't clear about what that means. Specifically, once the prerequisites are completed it says a candidate must have;
6) Have an endorsement, if required by this part, in the applicant's logbook or training record that has been signed by an authorized instructor who certifies that the applicant—
(i) Has received and logged training time within 2 calendar months preceding the month of application in preparation for the practical test;
So if he has all the requirements completed and due to something like weather just wasn't able to take the check ride. I think he can probably take a short flight performing some of the maneuvers for the rating and maybe some ground review. But by no means does Superduck need to redo everything listed in the requirements for the rating. What is needed is up to the CFIs judgement at this point.
PROVIDED, of course, that the CFI still feels confident that Superduck still meets the instructors belief of preparedness for the checkride. If the CFI is ok with doing some ground review and no flight, Superduck still meets the requirements for endorsement for the check ride per 61.39.
av8tr1
"Never tell me the odds!"
Well then I guess I stand corrected.
It does say "3 hours of flight training with an authorized instructor in a (what ever rating you seek) in preparation for the practical test, which must have been performed within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test.
I will go sit in the corner and wear my pointed hat.
It does say "3 hours of flight training with an authorized instructor in a (what ever rating you seek) in preparation for the practical test, which must have been performed within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test.
I will go sit in the corner and wear my pointed hat.
superduck
Well-Known Member
thanks guys and Av8 is right on point. I am sign off for my checkride and coming up middle next month would be expired. So I know I would have to get it re-endorsed and IACRA resubmitted.
So from this point, it is only the CFI judgement decision to re-endorse it or not or feel that I needed further review?
So from this point, it is only the CFI judgement decision to re-endorse it or not or feel that I needed further review?
av8tr1
"Never tell me the odds!"
I was wrong. As pointed out by the more knowledgeable here, you'll need an additional 3 hours with your CFI in preparation for the check ride per 61.109 a.(4) you'll need 3 hours flight training prep time within the past 2 calendar months.
Sorry Superduck. But good luck on the check ride.
Sorry Superduck. But good luck on the check ride.