6 elements of stabilized approach???
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JaceTheAce
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All flights must be stabilized by 1,000 feet above airport elevation in IMC and by 500 feet above airport elevation in VMC. An approach is stabilized when all of the following criteria are met:
- The aircraft is on the correct flight path;
- Only small changes in heading/pitch are required to maintain the correct flight path;
- The aircraft speed is not more than Vref + 20 KIAS and not less than Vref;
- Sink rate is no greater than 1,000 fpm. If an approach requires a sink rate greater than 1,000 fpm, a special briefing should be conducted;
- Power setting is appropriate for the air craft configuration and is not below the minimum power for approach as described by the aircraft operating manual;
- All briefings and checklists have been conducted.
Minuteman
I HAVE STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT AUTOMOTIVE LIGHTING!
On a transport-sized airpa-ma-plane, for example:
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- Aligned with Runway (±2 dots or so)
- On Glidepath (±2 dots or VASI)
- Vref+5 plus half the steady headwind plus full gust (-0 knots to +10 knots of that)
- Landing gear down by 1000' AFE (or outer marker)
- Configued by 500' AFE for visual, 1000' AFE for instrument approach
- Engines spooled to approach idle
- No speedbrakes needed below 1000' AFE
- Uh, yeah, and cleared.
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Tommay85
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HAHA, I'm using that on my stage check in CFII!! :laff: Heck, I'll use it if it comes up during the hiring workshop this summer too. They'd be like, "mother of god, make this guy the chief flight instructor right now!!". haha
MrLeisure757
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I was asked that on my 112 checkride a few weeks ago. I remembered it this way....
FLAPS CHECK (√ )
Flight Path (Correct)
Landing Configuration (Correct)
Airspeed (Proper)
Power Set (Appropriate for Aircraft Configuration)
Sink Rate (Not abnormal)
√ Checklists complete.
Hope that helps.
FLAPS CHECK (√ )
Flight Path (Correct)
Landing Configuration (Correct)
Airspeed (Proper)
Power Set (Appropriate for Aircraft Configuration)
Sink Rate (Not abnormal)
√ Checklists complete.
Hope that helps.
JaceTheAce
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TXaviator
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perfect thanks.
yeah i heard this is some new thing theyre supposed to ask on all stage checks now.........but a lot of us were obviously not briefed on this.....
Snickersnwa
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I believe we were told that (1) elements describing a stabilized approach, (2) determining crosswind components, and (3) discussing personal weather minimums are supposed to be on every check from 102 through MEI...
TXaviator
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hell. i hadnt heard about 2 and 3 yet. just that the six elements of a stabilized approach are like required now (as in, along with vspeeds and emergencies, etc)
TXaviator
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yeah i tend to agree. its kindof restating the OBVIOUS.
duh, im on an approach, OBVIOUSLY im monitoring and staying on the prescribed course.
stuff like that bugs me. if it slips your mind that you need to be following a course while on an approach, you have no business flying approaches.
Snickersnwa
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I *think* if I remember correctly, it was brought up in an ops meeting. We were told to discuss this with our students.
Dugie8
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This is an area UND has dropped the ball in. I don't recall if you have flown the SEMI yet or not, but the engine failure after liftoff checklist is a prime example. Elements about flying the airplane DO NOT belong in an emergency checklist, ie establish a 5 degree bank, rudder, etc.
A stabalized approach is more than just flying the needles centered, I can fly an ILS perfectly centered and not be stabilized (inverted, sever side slip, and so on). The premise of a stablized approach is having the airplane under "control" by a pre determined point (usually 1000 AGL IMC or 500 AGL VMC) to make the go around decision a little bit less "ambiguous".
I am sure we have all done it and rushed an approach and just barely pulled out a landing that would make a Navy pilot blush. The whole point is to take out the "machoism" and insert a level of safety that keeps us out of trouble. If it aint' stable by X amount of feet above the ground, go around and try it again.
Preaching elements that include basic airmenship is not the point.
Westcoaster
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It is in every standardization manual (and possibly the policies and procedures).
Proper config
Position to land
Airspeed
No excessive sink rate
Appropriate power setting
Final Check
TXaviator
Well-Known Member
ok well i got it today and spaced out on the
"power set" portion
i countered with
ok well, if your airspeed is appropriate, and your sink rate is appropriate, doesnt it NATURALLY FOLLOW that your power has already been set correctly???
...
10. eyes looking at instruments
11. wings still attached to plane
12. sitting in seat
etc etc
"power set" portion
i countered with
ok well, if your airspeed is appropriate, and your sink rate is appropriate, doesnt it NATURALLY FOLLOW that your power has already been set correctly???
...
10. eyes looking at instruments
11. wings still attached to plane
12. sitting in seat
etc etc
