56 chautauqua furloughs - RAH parking 135/145's

CFIT99

CFIT99

I'm probably commenting ironically...
saw this posted on another site


"Effective Oct. 4, we will discontinue Milwaukee-St. Louis service and implement additional day-of-week frequency reductions from Milwaukee to Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, Des Moines, Flint, Grand Rapids, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Omaha and Pittsburgh. "


anyone shed some more light on this?

(sorry if a repost)
 
My guess it is half true. Everyone know RAH wants out of sub-50 seat flying, but I don't think they will need to furlough.
 
Yeah, my buddy is in indoc for RP right now.. They gave the official word today. They will put them through the type rating and then immediate furlough.
 
True. 50+ in new hire classes sent home. "Welcome to Republic. Here's your pink slip."

Like they couldn't forecast this and make changes before 50 people quit their jobs. Disgraceful.

Why anyone would come to work here for such a morally bankrupt management team is completely beyond me!
 
I wonder if southwest caught wind of this before. They are starting up STL-MKE service very shortly. It's probably a coincidence. Good luck to all. At least they are giving him the type and not locking the doors that day on them.
 
Sad.

First Vision with their small number of furloughs, now this...guess that Furlough tracking thread will need to get updated..
 
Sucks for those in class that management couldn't look far enough ahead prior to telling 56 people, "oh sorry, I guess we don't need you after all." What a waste.
 
B200 Hawk said:
Sucks for those in class that management couldn't look far enough ahead prior to telling 56 people, "oh sorry, I guess we don't need you after all." What a waste.
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I think that management would have had to have looked far enough ahead to see what was likely going to happen.

The management simply is not intelligent enough (or more likely, just doesn't care) to realize that there is a human element involved that does not appear on their excel spreadsheet.

If any of these 56 ever end up flying the line at this company, do you think they'll, on average, be:

A) Helping the company save money and be on-time, the 'go-getters'

or

B) Show up and not care at all and do the bare minimum for the duration of every single workday


I think I have an idea.
 
Heath said:
True. 50+ in new hire classes sent home. "Welcome to Republic. Here's your pink slip."

Like they couldn't forecast this and make changes before 50 people quit their jobs. Disgraceful.

Why anyone would come to work here for such a morally bankrupt management team is completely beyond me!
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Bunch of garbage. Jeesh.
 
This is not the first time they have done this, a bunch of us got canned 3 days into training back in April 2008 with no seniority number. I couldn't be happier to be away from that place.
 
I don't know if it's particularly morally bankrupt but the old adage about "the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing" applies to the airline business.

Very VERY roughly:
Marketing creates the routes
Flight Operations figures out how many planes and pilots they need.
HR gets the figure from Flight Ops and begs for more pilots, if needed.

By the time they say, "OK! We need more bodies, go ahead and hire" and they get Flight Ops up to speed, Marketing may have changed their plans and there's still some inertia in the flow of pilots.

I know SouthernJets is waiting for marketing's 2012 summer plan to determine what type of advance entitlement they want to run in October 2011.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Very VERY roughly:
Marketing creates the routes
Flight Operations figures out how many planes and pilots they need.
HR gets the figure from Flight Ops and begs for more pilots, if needed.
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This is spot on. Pilot staffing is an incredibly hard equation to deal with. Think about attrition: pilot's give two week's notice,even if they've known for months (which is completely understandable considering the unpredictability of the industry). Then, to fill that same pilot's position, it takes at least 2.5 months of training a new-hire. This cycle is ridiculous, and one that a lot of bean counters can't understand. They'd rather deal with real-time, tangible numbers than forecast attrition accurately.


It certainly doesn't excuse what's happening. It needs to change. That being said, many of the companies that commit these actions - repeatedly - still have stacks and stacks of resumes on their desks.
 
C150J said:
This is spot on. Pilot staffing is an incredibly hard equation to deal with. Think about attrition: pilot's give two week's notice,even if they've known for months (which is completely understandable considering the unpredictability of the industry). Then, to fill that same pilot's position, it takes at least 2.5 months of training a new-hire. This cycle is ridiculous, and one that a lot of bean counters can't understand. They'd rather deal with real-time, tangible numbers than forecast attrition accurately.


It certainly doesn't excuse what's happening. It needs to change. That being said, many of the companies that commit these actions - repeatedly - still have stacks and stacks of resumes on their desks.
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Don't get me started on bean counters and aviation.

They're the reason for:

a. Leo Mullin (Billion dollar CEO who couldn't lead his way out of a telephone booth)
b. The 737 still being around after what, 300 years?
c. Priceline.com
d. Bag fees
e. Ridiculous rest rules
f. Silly things like "gear down" flights with passengers onboard when there are hydraulic MEL's
g. Justin Beiber. Yeah, I said it.
 
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