47 trapped on 'nightmare' flight to the Twin Cities

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47 trapped on 'nightmare' flight to the Twin Cities
Security and rules kept passengers confined all night in a small plane at Rochester due to thunderstorms.

When Link Christin boarded a Continental Airlines flight from Houston to the Twin Cities on Friday night, he expected to be on the ground in about three hours and ready for a comfy bed.

Instead, he was among 47 passengers who spent the night trapped inside a small airplane, parked at the Rochester airport, complete with crying babies and the aroma of over-used toilets.

The ExpressJet Airlines that operated the plane says the flight was diverted to Rochester because of Twin Cities thunderstorms, and that airline regulations prevented passengers from getting off the plane.

Christin is incredulous that the airline couldn't figure out an option besides trapping passengers on the plane for nine hours.

"It's not like you're on a [Boeing] 747 and you can walk around,'' said Christin, a professor at William Mitchell College of Law. "This was a sardine can, with a single row of seats on one side of the plane and two rows of seats on the other. And they've got about 50 people inside, including babies, for the whole night. It was a nightmare.''

Continental Airlines, which issued the tickets for Flight 2816, referred inquiries to ExpressJet Airlines. ExpressJet spokesperson Kristy Nicholas said the flight ran into several problems.

The airline crew on the plane reached their maximum work hours in the air, so another crew had to be flown in. The alternative of chartering a bus didn't work out. And letting the passengers into the Rochester airport was not possible because they would have to go through security screening again, and the screeners had gone home for the day.

What about just letting the passengers sleep in the airport terminal? "That was not provided as an option by ground services personnel at the airport,'' said Nicholas.

The flight left Houston about 9:30 p.m. Friday, said Nicholas, and was slated to arrive in the Twin Cities by midnight. But in Minnesota, passengers were told the flight was being diverted to Rochester because of thunderstorms and that it would refuel there, said Christin.

With the plane grounded in Rochester, the clock ticked from 1 a.m. to 2 a.m. and beyond. Christin said he tried dozing off. Passengers received no food, except for a bag of pretzels earlier, he said.

And "the smell of the bathroom was getting worse, the smell of the babies was getting worse.''

As light began to fill the cabin around 6 a.m., the plane doors opened and passengers were allowed into the airport terminal, Christin said. The airlines gave them one free beverage, he said. By about 9:30 a.m., the passengers were sent back on the same plane they had spent the night in -- which by this time had no functioning restroom. They landed in the Twin Cities about 11 a.m.

ExpressJet apologizes for the incident, Nicholas said. But passenger safety and the legal requirements of airlines were top priorities.

The attorney also wondered why Continental Airlines was not taking responsibility for the incident.

"My boarding pass has a huge headline saying Continental,'' said Christin. "The flight attendant said, 'Thank you for flying Continental.' The comment cards we were given said Continental. Continental is totally in charge, whether by ownership or agency.''


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Airline captains.... How would you handle a situation like that? I just can't imagine clocking out and leaving your pax to sit there and rot.
 
I really don't get what that crew was thinking leaving people on board like that.

Declare an emergency if you have to, anything you need to do to deplane.
 
This situation is totally unacceptable. First, how hard is it to get some TSA idiots out to the airport? Second, I don't think the Captain was using his PIC authority to the fullest here. Declare an emergency or say PAX are getting sick and call for an Ambulance. I can't even imagine being stuck in an ERJ for that long.... Ugh!
 
Obviously no one had the Cahoonahs to just say around 3a.m. "I'm leaving this airplane whether you like it or not". I don't think there is a court out there that would disagree after that long with no crew in the plane that would indict you.
 
We weren't there and don't have all the facts about the info the crew was being given.

Based on what was written it would seem logical. Declare the emergency and march the people off the plane and into the terminal.

This stinks of poor poor management decisions by the company.

EDIT: I too am suprised a pax didn't pop an emergency exit or demand off the plane.
 
So let me get this straight. The pilots just left when they reached their max time? No explanation to a single passenger?
 
Last year our MIA-EZE flight diverted to Uruguay due to weather. We sat inside the aircraft for 5 hours and were not allowed out. What made it a little better though was that it was an A340, not a RJ.
 
If I was the captain way before this I would have told the Rochester airport people that they had 15 minutes to get the stairs or jetway next to my airplane or I'd declare an emergency and evacuate the airplane (Last time I was on a XJT plane I dont think they have airstair doors.)
 
So let me get this straight. The pilots just left when they reached their max time? No explanation to a single passenger?

No. There always has to be one F/A and one pilot on board if passengers are on the plane. More likely: The terminal was locked up and closed w/ no way to get in, and they timed out so they couldn't fly anywhere. The ATC tower was probably closed as well.

At the very least I would've pulled into any 24 hr FBO on the field and had people deplane via step ladder. Failing that, I would've been dialing those magic three numbers (911) on my phone if my company was not providing me with the resources I needed to get the people off after a couple of hours. 9 hours is just mind-blowing. But knowing the media they're including the 3-4 hour flight up from IAH in that number. Being stuck somwhere on the ground for 5 hours is a clear violation of company policy. You can get a lot done with a cellphone, and cost shouldn't even factor into the equation at this point.
 
I don't have all of the details of the incident, but does anyone think an option might have been to taxi over to an FBO?
 
No. There always has to be one F/A and one pilot on board if passengers are on the plane. More likely: The terminal was locked up and closed w/ no way to get in, and they timed out so they couldn't fly anywhere. The ATC tower was probably closed as well.

At the very least I would've pulled into any 24 hr FBO on the field and had people deplane via step ladder. Failing that, I would've been dialing those magic three numbers (911) on my phone if my company was not providing me with the resources I needed to get the people off after a couple of hours. 9 hours is just mind-blowing. But knowing the media they're including the 3-4 hour flight up from IAH in that number. Being stuck somwhere on the ground for 5 hours is a clear violation of company policy. You can get a lot done with a cellphone, and cost shouldn't even factor into the equation at this point.

Already covered by Alchemy
 
Completely unbelievable....I can't imagine being one of those pax. What have the airlines come to?
 
Me thinks this is more of a crew wanting to keep the engines running so they get paid more than anything else.
 
Creativity - thinking outside of the box

Empowerment - faith that if you use your creativity to create an agreeable resolution, that you won't end up in the chief pilot's office with an HR rep and security.
 
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