4 Dead at PDK, Atlanta Ga after Likely Engine Failure Results in 285 Crash

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Sad day. I've instructed out of Peachtree DeKalb here in Atlanta for almost 2 years.

Must have really spooked those controllers. Ugh.

They screwed up the runway numbers (anyone ever departed from "runway No. 311"?) but I set the bar pretty low for the AJC.
 
I don't think there was engine failure. If you look at the picture of the prop, it appears that it was developing power. 4 people, lots of bags...just pure speculation.
 
HeyEng said:
I don't think there was engine failure. If you look at the picture of the prop, it appears that it was developing power. 4 people, lots of bags...just pure speculation.
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It could be.. But unless there were LOTS of bags the Saratoga shouldn't have an issue with that. Unless the people were very large. Who knows... Sad day regardless
 
Ayork62493 said:
It could be.. But unless there were LOTS of bags the Saratoga shouldn't have an issue with that. Unless the people were very large. Who knows... Sad day regardless
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No doubt about that, but I don't underestimate the weight of Americans today and especially how much CRAP people seem to want to pile on an airplane. Conditions here today have been beautiful...cool, no significant weather, no winds, low DA.
 
HeyEng said:
I don't think there was engine failure. If you look at the picture of the prop, it appears that it was developing power. 4 people, lots of bags...just pure speculation.
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Are you getting something from those pictures I'm not? Looks like there's nothing left.
 
Speculation aside - it doesn't have a complete engine failure to bring the thing down, it may well have been producing some power, just not enough to keep them airborne...we don't know, we weren't there.

RIP to all


Bp244
 
Very sad indeed. I did most of my training out of PDK. A guy I used to work with in ATL's C tower was on the road and saw it crash. I'm just amazed the aircraft didn't hit any motorists.

RIP
 
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BarbieDreamPilot said:
Are you getting something from those pictures I'm not? Looks like there's nothing left.
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HeyEng said:
No doubt about that, but I don't underestimate the weight of Americans today and especially how much CRAP people seem to want to pile on an airplane. Conditions here today have been beautiful...cool, no significant weather, no winds, low DA.
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I only have time in the stiff leg togas but in my experience if it fits it flies.
 
HeyEng said:
No doubt about that, but I don't underestimate the weight of Americans today and especially how much CRAP people seem to want to pile on an airplane. Conditions here today have been beautiful...cool, no significant weather, no winds, low DA.
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I blame the USPS.

"If it fits, it ships"

Well, not exactly.
 
BaronPete said:
Fill me in - not familiar with the aircraft?
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Back in the 80s there was a rash of turbocharged (""Turbo" is the same as "Turbine," right?") piston airplanes getting misfueled with Jet A. It resulted in AD 87-21-2 which required the installation of restrictors in the fueling ports so that the wide Jet A nozzle wouldn't fit. As last year's crash of an air ambo 421 proved, some things never change.
 
deadstick said:
Back in the 80s there was a rash of turbocharged (""Turbo" is the same as "Turbine," right?") piston airplanes getting misfueled with Jet A. It resulted in AD 87-21-2 which required the installation of restrictors in the fueling ports so that the wide Jet A nozzle wouldn't fit. As last year's crash of an air ambo 421 proved, some things never change.
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You have a link for that? I'd love to read that report. I was taught in Flight Safety that this was an issue specially if your 414/421 had 4 props instead of 3.
 
No link. I was learning to fly back then and a hot topic around the FBO coffee pot. I believe the AD was for the twin Cessnas like the one that crashed last year, but the problem was with others, too. I heard of T-Arrows and T-Lances getting the wrong fuel. The T Lances were a problem because of the cowl design and the turbo whine could be mistaken by the newbie line guy as a turbine.

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Looks Pratt-ish.
 
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