B-52 Down At Edwards

[CFI A&P]

Here’s an attempt at redirect - Any chance a member here is familiar with B-52 operations and what the Boeing engineers would be doing? Could this be related to the Rolls-Royce engine retro-fits?

 

[FlyingAccountant]

Here’s an attempt at redirect - Any chance a member here is familiar with B-52 operations and what the Boeing engineers would be doing? Could this be related to the Rolls-Royce engine retro-fits?

I think it was the test aircraft for the radar modernization program. I want to say the engine work is being done somewhere in Oklahoma or Texas. They pulled a hull out of AMARC and shipped it via truck for the project.

 

[MikeD]

Here’s an attempt at redirect - Any chance a member here is familiar with B-52 operations and what the Boeing engineers would be doing? Could this be related to the Rolls-Royce engine retro-fits?

I think it was the test aircraft for the radar modernization program. I want to say the engine work is being done somewhere in Oklahoma or Texas. They pulled a hull out of AMARC and shipped it via truck for the project.

The engine test work is the other B-52 assigned to the Tesr Wing. This bird has a modem AESA
radar installed, which is a great capability, and was working on some weapon system improvements I believe.

 

[MikeD]

Unfortunately, if they were low altitude, only four crew would have a chance at survival.
Pilot, co-pilot, EWO and gunner seats all eject upward. Downstairs, Navigator and Radar Navigator seats eject downward. Unless the pilots could zoom climb the jet to get a positive velocity vector for the two Navigator seats, then those two crew would not likely survive a low altitude ejection. Those would be the six crew seats.

There are additionally two jumpseats, one upstairs and one downstairs, that aren’t ejection seats. Anyone in those seats wears a backpack parachute. Both jumpseaters have to manually bail out of the discarded downstairs lower fuselage hatches once the navigators eject. If the upstairs jumpseater can’t get aft and down the ladder to downstairs, or if the navigators don’t eject, the jumpseaters can’t bailout either. For this reason, the jumpseats are not normally used for anything, unless for specific checkride requirements, where a regular seat cannot be utilized; or in this case, for flight test purposes. This came out of a 16 October 1984 crash of B-52G 57-6479 out of Fairchild AFB, WA, which was on a night, low level training flight about 15 miles northeast of Kayenta. AZ on the Navajo Indian reservation. During a ridge crossing, the jet clipped the ridge and rolled out of control. All six crew ejected (gunner killed), but the sole upstairs jumpseat occupant, a senior Colonel who was the deputy commander for operations of the Bomb Wing, had no time to unbuckle, much less time or altitude to get aft and downstairs to the bailout hole, and perished.

 

[derg]

Unfortunately, if they were low altitude, only four crew would have a chance at survival.
Pilot, co-pilot, EWO and gunner seats all eject upward. Downstairs Navigator and Radar Navigator seats eject downward. Unless the pilots could zoom climb the jet to get a positive velocity vector for the two Navigator seats, then those two crew would not likely survive a low altitude ejection. Those would the the six crew seats.

There are additionally two jumpseats, one upstairs and one downstairs, that aren’t ejection seats. Anyone in those seats wears a backpack parachute. Both jumpseaters have to manually bail out of the discarded downstairs lower fuselage hatches once the navigators eject. If the upstairs jumpseater can’t get aft and down the ladder to downstairs, or if the navigators don’t eject, the jumpseaters can’t bailout either. For this reason, the jumpseats are not normally used for anything, unless for specific checkride requirements, where a regular seat cannot be utilized; or in this case, for flight test purposes. This came out of a 16 October 1984 crash of B-52G 57-6479 out of Fairchild AFB, WA, which was on a night, low level training flight about 15 miles northeast of Kayenta. AZ on the Navajo Indian reservation. During a ridge crossing, the jet clipped the ridge and rolled out of control. All six crew ejected (gunner killed), but the sole upstairs jumpseat occupant, a senior Colonel who was the deputy commander for operations of the Bomb Wing, had no time to unbuckle, much less time or altitude to get aft and downstairs to the bailout hole.

Oof, what a way to go.

 

[ahw01]

I wonder if some of the crew were able to eject.

I’m sorry, ejection seats in a bomber?

 

[Pilot Fighter]

I’m sorry, ejection seats in a bomber?

Other than Navy A-3’s, can’t think of any jet bombers that didn’t have ejection seats.

Did check for B-45’s.

 

[SteveC]

I’m sorry, ejection seats in a bomber?

See post #24 above.

 

[knot4u]

…because we are talking about you in a thread where we should instead be talking about the crew members that lost their life and what a terrible tragedy that is.

You managed to make a thread about someone’s dog dying be about you, now this?

I know it’s difficult, but try to remove yourself from any political discussion on here and try to contribute to the site in some positive way.

Here's where your logic fails. You're talking about me, I'm not. I'm not going to stop posting, this site has championed free speech with guardrails, I've been suspended multiple times from this board because I broke the rules. You want me to stop talking because you disagree, I want you to yell from the rooftops so everyone knows who you are when no one's looking.

 

[jhugz]

Here's where your logic fails. You're talking about me, I'm not. I'm not going to stop posting, this site has championed free speech with guardrails, I've been suspended multiple times from this board because I broke the rules. You want me to stop talking because you disagree, I want you to yell from the rooftops so everyone knows who you are when no one's looking.

I’m done interacting with you. Back to the point of this thread.