FedEx closing CGN, LAX, and ANC MD11. New system bid for all of the changes.

YAAAAYUS! :)

I remember being out with the Kalitta chief pilot during SouthernJets bankruptcy years, having some cocktails, and he almost had me convinced to jump ship.

Just think how much better your QOL would have be today if you have gone to Kalitta. None of the ridiculousness that comes with the pain of being a 350 LCA. And the pay...try not to think about what "could have been". ;)
 
It’s legitimately wild.

There was a thread over on APC (I know, I know) where a guy was shaming reserve pilots assigned a rotation off short call who don’t contact CS to make sure any 23m7 farmers who may have been skipped get paid.

Things I ain’t doing for $1,000, Alex.

I have to admit that I check out APC on occasion for...well...entertainment? I've been out of the flying gig (only mil) since 2015 so I honestly don't know how different things are outside of the forums and some ex-AF buds that have moved on to commercial flying but man...there seem to be some insufferable clowns out there that don't seem to know how good things are these days in the 121 world. Of course, out of 17,000'ish pilots (at SJs), there are probably a fair number but still...the vitriol you see coming from some of 'em on APC. Oye, I couldn't imagine having to fly with some of those fools.
 
I have to admit that I check out APC on occasion for...well...entertainment? I've been out of the flying gig (only mil) since 2015 so I honestly don't know how different things are outside of the forums and some ex-AF buds that have moved on to commercial flying but man...there seem to be some insufferable clowns out there that don't seem to know how good things are these days in the 121 world. Of course, out of 17,000'ish pilots (at SJs), there are probably a fair number but still...the vitriol you see coming from some of 'em on APC. Oye, I couldn't imagine having to fly with some of those fools.

It’s really fun flying with the rare FO, late 20s, early 30s, who is constantly griping about needing more premium pay, spends every waking moment checking iCrew and updating slips, then spend the entire flight complaining someone on a WS stole their greenie. I just sit and stare at Kansas with the INT turned down.

It’s like I work with a bunch of Gollums all chasing their precious.
 
Eek. I think I take the opposing view. Your calendar is your business. What right do I have to see yours? :)

Company and union are entities. Company is your employer. Union is your representation agent. The average John Doe pilot on the like is nothing - from your schedule perspective.

I think it’s a privacy thing. At our shop, I’m not aware of any “live” system to see someone else’s schedule. There is a buddy system, but you’d have to add their EMP # as a buddy for the buddies to see each others schedules.


Your schedule - your business :)

I believe that the 30,000 ft overview of this is ensuring ther integrity of whatever your scheduling system is. Seeing a "calendar" is just one way of protecting overall schedule integrity.

Trips/Pairings/Rotations - they aren't lines of flying. They are "commodities." As soon as we turned flying into a expiring resource of different values, we created a secondary market - and that market needs oversight. The best oversight is always transparency.

I'll talk about the two extremes... 1.) The reserve pilot that doesn't want to fly. 2.) The hustler that wants to pad their schedule with cushy and productive trips to 300 hrs/month.

1.) Whatever your reserve system is - there needs to be transparency in it so that you have a clear view of where you are on the "assignment board" so that when you are called you can say with certainty that the trip that you were assigned was built legally, in a timely manner, and was assigned to the proper pilot. (i.e. you) Reserve is a tradeoff where you are going to get more time "at home" in exchange for some (as my MIL bros/sis's would say...) BOHICA. If you are paying a little attention - 95% of assignments shouldn't come as a surprise.

2.) Hustlers... A lot of this is the same... it's all about the integrity of assignments. And seeing a "calendar" is just one way of verification - another would be being able to see information about the trip as to when the leg/trip/pairing/rotation became open - when it was built/rebuilt - when it "hit" open time - who tried to pick it up, who was denied, awarded, etc.

The reason I talk about integrity is because in many cases we are talking about not only contractual issues where your bargaining agent cannot "take sides" between one pilot and another, but we are talking about real amounts of money and quality of life issues. Being able to swap/pickup/drop a trip can mean the difference in thousands of dollars in ones paycheck and time away or at home. It can be something as simple as an overnight at the all-inclusive beach vs. a snow covered wasteland with no food for miles.

There needs to be a way for whatever system you have to be audited by the members. No one has the time or the energy to oversee the overall integrity of hundreds or thousands of transactions... but "random" audits by members who want to know why it didn't work out in their favor - that's what keeps the system honest.

The hustler pilot only cares that their daily fix was taken care of, the are already on to the next "high." - the reserve just doesn't want to be used and get paid for sitting at home. The 90% inbetween want to know why... why the couple of times a month they try to use the tools that exist to improve their schedule aren't working. And why things always seem to work out for pilot X, Y, and Z.

Once computers entered the arena and "how fast you (or the AI) push the button" became a thing the system changed. The opportunities to slew the playing field out of level necessitates more transparency, whatever your system.
 
I believe that the 30,000 ft overview of this is ensuring ther integrity of whatever your scheduling system is. Seeing a "calendar" is just one way of protecting overall schedule integrity.

Trips/Pairings/Rotations - they aren't lines of flying. They are "commodities." As soon as we turned flying into a expiring resource of different values, we created a secondary market - and that market needs oversight. The best oversight is always transparency.

I'll talk about the two extremes... 1.) The reserve pilot that doesn't want to fly. 2.) The hustler that wants to pad their schedule with cushy and productive trips to 300 hrs/month.

1.) Whatever your reserve system is - there needs to be transparency in it so that you have a clear view of where you are on the "assignment board" so that when you are called you can say with certainty that the trip that you were assigned was built legally, in a timely manner, and was assigned to the proper pilot. (i.e. you) Reserve is a tradeoff where you are going to get more time "at home" in exchange for some (as my MIL bros/sis's would say...) BOHICA. If you are paying a little attention - 95% of assignments shouldn't come as a surprise.

2.) Hustlers... A lot of this is the same... it's all about the integrity of assignments. And seeing a "calendar" is just one way of verification - another would be being able to see information about the trip as to when the leg/trip/pairing/rotation became open - when it was built/rebuilt - when it "hit" open time - who tried to pick it up, who was denied, awarded, etc.

The reason I talk about integrity is because in many cases we are talking about not only contractual issues where your bargaining agent cannot "take sides" between one pilot and another, but we are talking about real amounts of money and quality of life issues. Being able to swap/pickup/drop a trip can mean the difference in thousands of dollars in ones paycheck and time away or at home. It can be something as simple as an overnight at the all-inclusive beach vs. a snow covered wasteland with no food for miles.

There needs to be a way for whatever system you have to be audited by the members. No one has the time or the energy to oversee the overall integrity of hundreds or thousands of transactions... but "random" audits by members who want to know why it didn't work out in their favor - that's what keeps the system honest.

The hustler pilot only cares that their daily fix was taken care of, the are already on to the next "high." - the reserve just doesn't want to be used and get paid for sitting at home. The 90% inbetween want to know why... why the couple of times a month they try to use the tools that exist to improve their schedule aren't working. And why things always seem to work out for pilot X, Y, and Z.

Once computers entered the arena and "how fast you (or the AI) push the button" became a thing the system changed. The opportunities to slew the playing field out of level necessitates more transparency, whatever your system.


I appreciate the response.

At our shop you can see the reserve list for any given day, and be able to see trip numbers for reserve assignments. You can always pull up a reserve list to see who got assigned, your chances of being called, etc.


But as for the rest, our shop opentime is first come, first serve. Whoever clicks it first gets it. In that sense, if it’s gone then someone else was faster.

The main concern is if anyone using a bot. I’ll be honest, I don’t think the union does enough to investigate that. Furthermore, no one gets fired for it either. I do know they programmed our system that if there are several clicks in 1-2 seconds, it will start denying you for too many requests too soon. One way to fight a bot.

But still, it’s cumbersome. Bot users are outright cheating. They should be fired.
 
It’s really fun flying with the rare FO, late 20s, early 30s, who is constantly griping about needing more premium pay, spends every waking moment checking iCrew and updating slips, then spend the entire flight complaining someone on a WS stole their greenie. I just sit and stare at Kansas with the INT turned down.

It’s like I work with a bunch of Gollums all chasing their precious.
Something else I think would be the tiring troupe of "working so hard to get here!" from 26-28 year old folks. I see it often on the social media; someone who is introducing themselves by saying they had to work "so very, very hard" to get to the right seat at a legacy carrier.

I have seen too many folks under 30 that are flying @ the legacies with the only two type ratings: E-170 and A330 (holy shiznat, really?!?) Oye...I understand things have changed over the years and I'm getting to the age of yelling at the clouds, but the audacity of some of 'em is pretty bold.
 
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