MOSAIC

WacoFan said:
The way I read it, no. Because I think a Super Hornet can go faster than 250kts. Correct me if I'm wrong!
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Is 250kts the max allowable speed for an LSA and a sport pilot? That seems awful fast for a twitchy little bugger. I only feel as if I'm allowed to have this opinion because a friend used to take me up in his Pitts S-2B and he taught me some very basic aerobatic stuff. It was fun and safe but I was very aware that when my hand was on the stick if I even thought about a turn it was going to already be doing it. I also understand a S-2B is a pretty extreme comparison to a 152 but shouldn't the 152 or J-3 replica be what this whole thing is about? Just letting anyone scoot around at 250kts seems like a bad idea.
 
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knot4u said:
Is 250kts the max allowable speed for an LSA and a sport pilot? That seems awful fast for a twitchy little bugger.
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I read something that said the MOSAIC rules increased max speed from current LSA rules of 120kts to 250kts. But today read there was no maximum (which depending on AMG's answer about Super Hornet speed might include them). I am getting mixed interwebs info from various aviation emails.
 
WacoFan said:
I read something that said the MOSAIC rules increased max speed from current LSA rules of 120kts to 250kts. But today read there was no maximum (which depending on AMG's answer about Super Hornet speed might include them). I am getting mixed interwebs info from various aviation emails.
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It's probably just more AI nonsense. Junk in, junk out. I thought computers were supposed to make our lives easier?
 
knot4u said:
It's probably just more AI nonsense. Junk in, junk out. I thought computers were supposed to make our lives easier?
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Yeah - I've seen errors with AI stuff just in my limited playing around. Some people see the errors and laugh it off and say "haha AI is so stupid! No way it will be dangerous!" but being a contrarian it makes me feel even more scared - because the casual lack of precision with AI coupled with the inherent laziness of human beings is a recipe for disaster.
 
knot4u said:
Is 250kts the max allowable speed for an LSA and a sport pilot? That seems awful fast for a twitchy little bugger. I only feel as if I'm allowed to have this opinion because a friend used to take me up in his Pitts S-2B and he taught me some very basic aerobatic stuff. It was fun and safe but I was very aware that when my hand was on the stick if I even thought about a turn it was going to already be doing it. I also understand a S-2B is a pretty extreme comparison to a 152 but shouldn't the 152 or J-3 replica be what this whole thing is about? Just letting anyone scoot around at 250kts seems like a bad idea.
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Actually the S2B would have flunked the old rules via top-speed, stalling speed(old rules were like 45kts) and horsepower. I got obsessed with the replica of the very first Pitts which was basically an S1C with a 65hp Lycoming. Then Betty Skelton made the Pitts famous with her "Little Stinker" which had an 85hp Continental. I wanted to build a 600lb or less S1C and put an O200 on it but even the replica of the first Pitts that weighed like 550lbs empty stalled too fast for them LSA rules.
 
WacoFan said:
Actually the S2B would have flunked the old rules via top-speed, stalling speed(old rules were like 45kts) and horsepower. I got obsessed with the replica of the very first Pitts which was basically an S1C with a 65hp Lycoming. Then Betty Skelton made the Pitts famous with her "Little Stinker" which had an 85hp Continental. I wanted to build a 600lb or less S1C and put an O200 on it but even the replica of the first Pitts that weighed like 550lbs empty stalled too fast for them LSA rules.
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I think Budd Davisson would be my Pitts guy. Tried it once, not a fun aircraft.
 
ahw01 said:
I think Budd Davisson would be my Pitts guy. Tried it once, not a fun aircraft.
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He certainly is the living guru of Pitts instruction. Last I heard he was retiring because he was having trouble lining up a reliable mechanic that is familiar with the Pitts. However, as I type this his website is still up an running. Maybe he's still teaching.
 
ahw01 said:
I think Budd Davisson would be my Pitts guy. Tried it once, not a fun aircraft.
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He wrote the article about the first Pitts replica and we emailed about it years ago. Fast forward to today and the Pitts estate has given him the rights to market plans for the replica. Budd raves about it being a really fun little airplane and something any competent Citabria pilot could easily handle. It sounds like a lot of fun from the article.

Pirep on Replica of No. One Pitts Pirep on Replica of No. One Pitts
 
Honestly, I'm a little skeptical. When Light Sport was first put forth, it was supposed to "Save GA" with low cost aircraft. What everyone immediately did is figure out there's no money in the low end, so everything you saw was completely tweaked out with the latest glass and whiz bang and charged maximum dollars.

Not sure if this will be any different.
 
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