c172captain
Well-Known Member
Do regionals or any other commercial operators count safety pilot PIC multi time as multi PIC or do they just put it towards your total time?
Plenty of them will ask, and many will discount the time as they want you to have been FLYING the plane, not looking out the window.
Alrighty, so check in the box for Eagle. Who else?
Eagle asked me in my interview flat out "How many of these PIC hours behind a seminole where you the one physically controlling the yoke?" When I told him how many hours, he wrote it down. Eagle has been known to care. I interviewed with Air Whiskey and Colgan and neither airline cared.
How did the airline know if I was lying or not? In the remarks section I write "Safety pilot for..."
Also, if you are safety pilot, you cannot legally log a landing. So either you would be lying in your logbook to make it look like non-safety pilot time. Or someone who wanted to dig a little deeper could see that that it was safety pilot time.
-Rob
You can still log the landing if you like, since you are the PIC, it just wouldn't count towards your 90 day recency requirements or you could just take the controls for the landing.
As far as I know (based on conversations I've had with HR people there), Eagle, SkyWest, and Republic care.
As far as logging the time, the safety pilot cannot log x-c nor can he log the landing. If the flight goes into IMC, the safety pilot cannot log anything. Not to mention, taxi, take off, and landing time cannot be logged by the safety pilot. Also, the name of the safety pilot must be recorded.
The entries should look like:
Bob's Logbook: "Safety Pilot: John Smith"
John's Logbook: "Safety Pilot for Bob Barker"
Its not difficult to distinguish safety pilot time when going through a logbook.
How are you the PIC? The person next to you is rated in the aircraft, and should no longer have his hood on (he is landing after all.) You are no longer a required crew member.
-Rob
The two pilots may, however, agree prior to initiating the flight
that the safety pilot will be the PIC responsible for the
operation and safety of the aircraft during the flight. If this
is done, then the safety pilot may log all the flight time as PIC
time in accordance with FAR 1.1 and the pilot under the hood may
log, concurrently, all of the flight time during which he is the
sole manipulator of the controls as PIC time in accordance with
FAR 61.51(c)(2)(i). Enclosed please find a prior FAA
interpretation concerning the logging of flight time under
simulated instrument flight conditions. We hope that this
interpretation will be of further assistance to you.
As far as I know (based on conversations I've had with HR people there), Eagle, SkyWest, and Republic care.
As far as logging the time, the safety pilot cannot log x-c nor can he log the landing. If the flight goes into IMC, the safety pilot cannot log anything. Not to mention, taxi, take off, and landing time cannot be logged by the safety pilot. Also, the name of the safety pilot must be recorded.
The entries should look like:
Bob's Logbook: "Safety Pilot: John Smith"
John's Logbook: "Safety Pilot for Bob Barker"
Its not difficult to distinguish safety pilot time when going through a logbook.
Exactly! At ATP (which Im sure everyone knows that ATP uses the safety pilot deal extensively) the safety pilot was to log the off/on time, while the actual pilot logs the in/out.
-Rob
Counsel of the FAA in 1992. It says the safety pilot, if they agree that he is the PIC, then he can log ALL time as PIC.
You are correct that the person under the hood must put the name of the safety pilot, but the safety pilot DOES NOT have to put anywhere in the remarks that he was a safety pilot, or the name of the person he was splitting time with.